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NICS wait period
- Thread starter BoogieMan
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I love living in a free state.There is no NJ waiting period. Prior to all this mess when sales were normal I could go into any NJ store and walk out within a few minutes with a pistol (provided I had other permits) or a long gun.
I posted this because I was curious about wait times in other areas. How is NICS run? Is it a National check done by state employees? LGS (several of them in NJ) says that NICS wont even take a phone call currently. They are asking that all apps be faxed in.
I posted this because I was curious about wait times in other areas. How is NICS run? Is it a National check done by state employees? LGS (several of them in NJ) says that NICS wont even take a phone call currently. They are asking that all apps be faxed in.
Boogieman there is a wait but we are so use to it that we dont look at it as a wait. What is the time frame when you put in your paper work for a handgun until you walk out of the store with it? Its our wait. Thats how Im seeing it.. Ask these other guys how they go about buying a handgun.
lagavulin62 I live not to far from the beaches here and I wont miss it. We dont go there to often during peek season. We also wouldnt be moving anywhere near those Bushes cause I would want to get away from the city living and just be able to have my own 10 acreas with a nice house and not pay $15,000 in taxes a year.
The way it looks right now I will have my non resident CCW before I get my permits or NICS check back.... And the CCW paper work was sent in on 3/11... But this state or towns will blame the feds for it....
lagavulin62 I live not to far from the beaches here and I wont miss it. We dont go there to often during peek season. We also wouldnt be moving anywhere near those Bushes cause I would want to get away from the city living and just be able to have my own 10 acreas with a nice house and not pay $15,000 in taxes a year.
The way it looks right now I will have my non resident CCW before I get my permits or NICS check back.... And the CCW paper work was sent in on 3/11... But this state or towns will blame the feds for it....
In Alabama, I can buy a standard firearm, meaning not fully automatic, suppressed and etc., from a private party without an owner's permit or an NICS check.
A firearm transferred in from another State's seller/owner has to be processed through an FFL and I pay the FFL a nominal fee and he/she processes the NICS check on me. The transfer from my FFL to me does not require anything from me other than my driver's license, no owner's permit requried, and the completion of the NICS form. Normally takes about ten minutes.
If I purchase a firearm from a guns store, then the store processes the NICS and it is typically free. The paperwork takes ten to fifteen minutes. Just my drivers license and no owner's permit needed.
If I choose to have a concealed carry permit I go to my County's Sheriff's office to obtain a concealed weapon's carry permit. This is to carry a firearm concealed in public either on your person or in a vehicle/boat while off private property. The sheriff's office does do a background check on you and it takes about 15 minutes and an annual fee varying in cost from County to County. My County is $25.00, but it is reduced to $20.00 if you are a Senior Citizen. You can do the renewals by mail. Where I live, there are no local police. The 660 plus sq. mile area is covered by the Sherrif's Department. It is a small force. As you can imagine, the nearest Deputy can be a significant distance away in the event of an emergency call.
A firearm transferred in from another State's seller/owner has to be processed through an FFL and I pay the FFL a nominal fee and he/she processes the NICS check on me. The transfer from my FFL to me does not require anything from me other than my driver's license, no owner's permit requried, and the completion of the NICS form. Normally takes about ten minutes.
If I purchase a firearm from a guns store, then the store processes the NICS and it is typically free. The paperwork takes ten to fifteen minutes. Just my drivers license and no owner's permit needed.
If I choose to have a concealed carry permit I go to my County's Sheriff's office to obtain a concealed weapon's carry permit. This is to carry a firearm concealed in public either on your person or in a vehicle/boat while off private property. The sheriff's office does do a background check on you and it takes about 15 minutes and an annual fee varying in cost from County to County. My County is $25.00, but it is reduced to $20.00 if you are a Senior Citizen. You can do the renewals by mail. Where I live, there are no local police. The 660 plus sq. mile area is covered by the Sherrif's Department. It is a small force. As you can imagine, the nearest Deputy can be a significant distance away in the event of an emergency call.
@Ajtozzi- For the most part I dont mind the system in NJ. It keeps me from spending more money on guns. Lots of great things about the state IMO. I just hate the property taxes and gun laws are a bit restrictive. If I had lived someplace else prior it might be more of an issue to me. Also, you can get more than pistol permits per application. To the best of my knowledge you can get as many as you are willing to pay for. $2 each. I just picked up 4 yesterday. Like you said you can only buy 1 pistol every 30 days and the permits have to be used within 180 days. The way around that is another piece of paperwork. You can use all of your permits same day at the same point of purchase.
Well my instant 8 day NICS check came back today. So I picked up my Remington 1894 S/S shotgun.
Boogieman you can only ask or get 3 per 1 set of paper work. You can get as many set as you would like.
I would really like to know how you can get around the 31 day wait in between handgun purchases? Cause I have 2 waiting for me in the same store so I would like to know how I could bring them both home on the same day. Please do tell.
BTW who ever asked if the Garden State Parkway (parking lot) is now free.....HAHAHAHAHA That money making highway will never be free... The just took 1 or 2 tolls out heading south and 1 or 2 out heading north and just made them $1.50 to go thru...... Never will they get rid of the tolls...
Boogieman you can only ask or get 3 per 1 set of paper work. You can get as many set as you would like.
I would really like to know how you can get around the 31 day wait in between handgun purchases? Cause I have 2 waiting for me in the same store so I would like to know how I could bring them both home on the same day. Please do tell.
BTW who ever asked if the Garden State Parkway (parking lot) is now free.....HAHAHAHAHA That money making highway will never be free... The just took 1 or 2 tolls out heading south and 1 or 2 out heading north and just made them $1.50 to go thru...... Never will they get rid of the tolls...
@tynmann- According to my LGS they can fill out a form that allows you to take home multiples in the same day. To my understanding you would have to take them same day or wait the 30 days in between. I have 4 stores that I frequent in S NJ. The one that gave me that info is Bangers in Winslow, its located within South Jersey Shooting club. Another good one may be Bobs little sports shop in Glassboro. Bob is a huge supporter (maybe a founder) of the NJ2A society.
Well I will run that by Tips hardware when I get my purchase permits in cause I paid for 2 handguns (2 of the 3 permits will be for that place) they charged me for 2 NICS checks already. But they didnt say anything about taking them both home the same time. Please find out what has to be done or paperwork that needs to be filled out so I can let Tips know.
I have spoken to Bob about a 2 months ago. He seemed like a very nice guy and down to earth. If he had what I was looking for I wouldnt mind taking the ride over an hour to give him the business.
I have spoken to Bob about a 2 months ago. He seemed like a very nice guy and down to earth. If he had what I was looking for I wouldnt mind taking the ride over an hour to give him the business.
@Tynman- I did a quick search and came up with this. The thing is it might take you longer to get it approved than the wait period.
http://www.njsp.org/info/pdf/firearms/sp-015.pdf
I think there are many misconceptions about NJ gun laws. Most of the time the cops dont even know the laws. Such as only being able to get 3 permits at a time. I just picked up 4, my police station told me I can get as many as I am willing to pay $2 each. They are not to bad, the thing is that you just have to ask to do everything that people living else where can just go do.Kind of like living at home with parents -vs- getting your own place.
http://www.njsp.org/info/pdf/firearms/sp-015.pdf
I think there are many misconceptions about NJ gun laws. Most of the time the cops dont even know the laws. Such as only being able to get 3 permits at a time. I just picked up 4, my police station told me I can get as many as I am willing to pay $2 each. They are not to bad, the thing is that you just have to ask to do everything that people living else where can just go do.Kind of like living at home with parents -vs- getting your own place.
Boogieman you can get 3 permits on one application, but you can get as many application as you wish.
The form you found has some lines that you have to fall under to be able to do the more then one gun at a time.
Purchase of multiple handguns from a person who obtained the handguns through inheritance or intestacy.
Collector of handguns with a need to purchase or otherwise receive multiple handguns in the same transaction or within a 30-day
period in furtherance of the applicant's collecting activities. "Need" shall include, but not be limited to, situations where there is a
reasonable likelihood that the additional handguns sought to be purchased would not be readily available after the 30-day period,
that it would not be feasible or practical to purchase the handguns separately, or that prohibiting the purchase of more than one
handgun within a 30-day period would have a materially adverse impact on the applicant's ability to enhance his collection. A
"collector" shall include any person who devotes time and attention to acquiring firearms for the enhancement of the person's
collection: as curios; for inheritance; for historical, investment, training and competitive, recreational, educational, scientific, or
defensive purposes; or any or other lawful related purpose.
The applicant participates in sanctioned handgun shooting competitions and needs to purchase or otherwise receive multiple
handguns in a single transaction or within a 30-day period, and the need is related to the applicant's competitive shooting
activities, including use in or training for sanctioned competitions.
That is right off the form. Listen I hope you can get all your guns in one time. I would have like to also but its to late for me cause I think my stuff is back in town and now its just waiting for when the chief feels I could go get my guns.
The form you found has some lines that you have to fall under to be able to do the more then one gun at a time.
Purchase of multiple handguns from a person who obtained the handguns through inheritance or intestacy.
Collector of handguns with a need to purchase or otherwise receive multiple handguns in the same transaction or within a 30-day
period in furtherance of the applicant's collecting activities. "Need" shall include, but not be limited to, situations where there is a
reasonable likelihood that the additional handguns sought to be purchased would not be readily available after the 30-day period,
that it would not be feasible or practical to purchase the handguns separately, or that prohibiting the purchase of more than one
handgun within a 30-day period would have a materially adverse impact on the applicant's ability to enhance his collection. A
"collector" shall include any person who devotes time and attention to acquiring firearms for the enhancement of the person's
collection: as curios; for inheritance; for historical, investment, training and competitive, recreational, educational, scientific, or
defensive purposes; or any or other lawful related purpose.
The applicant participates in sanctioned handgun shooting competitions and needs to purchase or otherwise receive multiple
handguns in a single transaction or within a 30-day period, and the need is related to the applicant's competitive shooting
activities, including use in or training for sanctioned competitions.
That is right off the form. Listen I hope you can get all your guns in one time. I would have like to also but its to late for me cause I think my stuff is back in town and now its just waiting for when the chief feels I could go get my guns.
@tynman- Are you not a collector? Seeing as NJ doesnt recognize C&R any firearm can be a collector firearm. Also guns are not readily available so there is a fair chance that any handgun you see will not be available in 30 days.
I dont plan on using the form. I did just pick up 4 permits under 1 application. I dont know who is telling you your limited. Time is the only limiting factor that im aware of.
http://www.njsp.org/info/pdf/firearms/sts-033.pdf- does not contain a limit.
http://www.njsp.org/info/forms.html- link for all applicable NJ permits and FAQ
I dont plan on using the form. I did just pick up 4 permits under 1 application. I dont know who is telling you your limited. Time is the only limiting factor that im aware of.
http://www.njsp.org/info/pdf/firearms/sts-033.pdf- does not contain a limit.
http://www.njsp.org/info/forms.html- link for all applicable NJ permits and FAQ
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2ndsojourn
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From BoogieMan:
"Seeing as NJ doesnt recognize C&R....."
What's the impact of this? Does this mean that if one has a C&R FFL, that you can't receive otherwise federally recognized C&R's direct from others?
"Seeing as NJ doesnt recognize C&R....."
What's the impact of this? Does this mean that if one has a C&R FFL, that you can't receive otherwise federally recognized C&R's direct from others?
Having a C&R in NJ is IMO useless. You can not legally accept firearms from out of state without going through a FFL. You can transfer (as a citizen) long guns only by using the from from the state police. No registration, but if (not that it ever happens) someone questions you about how you acquired that long gun you need to be able to show that form signed by buyer and seller along with your FID.
NOTE: I am not a lawyer and none of this info should be used or confused with legal advice. Seeing as your freedom could be in jeopardy I recommend consulting a lawyer or authority.
NOTE: I am not a lawyer and none of this info should be used or confused with legal advice. Seeing as your freedom could be in jeopardy I recommend consulting a lawyer or authority.
I went to my PD today cause 2 weeks ago I was told the chief was on vacation and my paper work was on his desk waiting for him. I was told it should be another week once he gets back. Which brings us to today. (my filing date was 1/24/13) At first when I filed the paperwork I was told it takes a month to 2. Then I was told by a front office lady (which acts like I or anyone else shouldn't have a gun) told me it was 3 to 4 months now. The woman that I guess does some of the paperwork for PPP came out to tell me it shouldn't be that long its on the desk with others in front of me. By the time I got home there was a message from the Det Sargent that does the paperwork to call him back. Talking to him (which he was very nice) he explained to me that he should get to my paperwork by the end of the month. But with all this going on he said the wait is up to 3 to 4 months and they went from 20 applications a month to 20 applications a day. So they are backed up in my town with no extra help added for the rush. But talking to someone that knows what he is talking about and telling me the truth I can wait and not get mad.
But I would call this a waiting period. A long one at that...
But I would call this a waiting period. A long one at that...