NICS To Be Shut Down This Weekend

Well I went to a gun show this weekend, Sunday, and was considering doing a trade for another pistol with a dealer.

They said NICS was down since 9:10. I arrived about 1:00 and it was still down. Was still down before I left which was around 3:30. The beautiful woman who was working the table said that it always seemed to happen on Sundays around the same time and for the same length of time.

All the dealers had guns sitting waiting to be transferred over but......... w/o NICS everybodies hands were tied. The customers the dealers.

I can't believe I went to a gun show and left emty handed :(

Looks like they're working on getting us to accept the fact that they don't like us buying what we want to buy.

Ross T.
 
Maybe I should have told the dealer I was buying a pistol from this morning that it was for my mother, just to spite the Million Moron March. :mad:

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It is the people who are prisoners of their own ignorance about firearms that pose the greatest threat to our 2nd Amendment Rights.
 
Actually, things like this will make people welcome photo-licencing a little more, e.g. with the licence you get around this problem - just take the hit once.

I believe that NICS failures will garner support from both gun owners and businesses (who lose businesses in the NICS shutdowns) for photo licencing for gun buyers.

It's amazing. . . . the people would never have swallowed licencing 10 years ago; but could be made to swallow NICS, even thought those who pushed for it said licencing was the next step, and this is what they had in mind all along.

Of course, the same people pushing for the licencing protest CHL being used to avoid the NICS check. . . .

Has nothing to do with crime, people need to accept the fact that the people pushing for all this Gun Control JUST DON'T WANT you buying guns.


Battler.
 
It's been down since yesterday afternoon at least. The recording today says that it'll be up tomorrow (Saturday) morning.
 
I think this is being a habit of theirs, because they were shut down for quite awhile last weekend, seems like they choose weekends, (gunshows,etc.?????)

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It seems to me then, that we should start a campaign, via the few friends we have left in Washington, to codify that if the NICS is down FOR ANY REASON, the sale will go through without a check and with no penalties.

I understand that there originally was something in the law to this effect, but the BATF in effect made it plain that the dealer would be in Big Trouble if he did make the sale.

The NICS should be like the airline reservation systems - NEVER down. No commercial organization could long survive with a track record like that.

This should also be something we should yell far and wide about - OK we agreed to a background check with the understanding that it would always be available and not subject to the capricious acts of "maintenance", etc.
You can bet it will be "down" on Election Day and any other day the govt thinks the "rabble" might get out of hand.

We should start logging all these down times and have GOA and the World Net Daily start pounding these facts into the politicians.
And perhaps a letter-writing campaign to our reps to boot. If we don't start yelling it will only get worse. This is de fact shutting down the gun shows.

We need the specifics - gun show name and sponsor, location, date, and times.



[This message has been edited by Oatka (edited May 12, 2000).]
 
Whether or not the current shutdowns are intentional or not, the fact remains that the there is no excuse for not being able to verify records in a computerized system in this day and age. If they wanted the system to stay running, they would have backup alternatives available. There can be no doubt that the government wants this to be as cumbersome as possible, and they want this for political reasons.
It should be a warning to us all on what a more complex system would be like.
As soon as we get rid of Clinton, we should concentrate our efforts to get rid of the whole federal involvement in the purchasing of firearms, putting the NICS at the top of the list.
 
Funny, IIRC, Georgia uses a free-standing system administered by the GBI and run through the GCIC (which is, of course, linked to the NCIC). Our stand-alone system was scheduled to be 'down for maintenance' for the weekend as well... Odd weekend to pick at random...

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10mm: It's not the size of the Dawg in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog!
 
So what else is new?? Gun shows are held on the weekends. All FFL holders must go through the process of begging the King and his toadies for permission to sell, buy, trade or give a gun away. Therefore, if the Feds conveniently lose the "computer", de facto, gun shows are "closed down."

There is method to every facet of their madness.

Finally, when our rotten, evil, Marxist Socialist politicians have completely sold out their People and their sworn oath, and passed King Klinton's "Great Safety For Children Law," which will forbid anyone from disposing of a gun in any way, shape or form, without begging permission of the King and his communistnazi toadies, the computers will just "go down," and never come back up.

So, again, de facto, guns will be banned.

There are always "unintended consequences," aren't there???

Just a thought... J.B.
 
I agree also... I just laid out some seriously hard-earned plastic on a NIB Kimber Custom Classic (thank you, thank you) and was told that they expected NICS to be down until Sunday (MMM Day) Pathetic... So, I will bite my tounge and wait, like all other decent, law-abiding citizens... I'll tell you, I am still fiercely proud of my country, but have little respect left for my goverment... Just my $0.02...

-R
 
Bought my first AR15 today in honor of the MMM and ran into the same thing. Guess I'll have to wait until next week to pick it up. There is no excuse for this! Obviously another sign of too much government control. In effect, they can stop gun purchases at will.

Makes you think.
 
Gunshow promoters are the ones in the best position to know (consistantly) when the system goes down on weekends. But whom do they complain to? How do we get united on this?

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TFL End of Summer Meet, August 12th & 13th, 2000
 
First of all, I don't have any "inside source" to the truth, but someone who ALWAYS knows of things before I do, and ALWAYS ends up being right said that the NICS was to be shut down for 5 days via EXECUTIVE ORDER. First it will be a few days, next time a couple of weeks, then...? I find Battler's statement very interesting and VERY possible.

:( :( :(
 
as a side message, a photo licensing system may seem like a good idea, but most of these proposed ideas have been along the lines of a photo license (where you would have to pass a background check) which would allow you the privilge to attempt a firearms purchase. in most cases, these proposals would still require you to pass a background check for the actual purchase.

most of these proposals have also talked about keeping a list of what is bought...
 
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