Newby bullseye pistol

Kle,

I have a S&W Model 14 (38 SPL) that I sometimes shoot on league nights for fun. It's a blast. On timed and rapid my 1st shot is single action, and the others are double action. It takes getting used to, but it's all about trigger control. I'd like to have a Curio and Relic K22 Masterpiece to go with it.
 
Mike_In_MD said:
Kle,

I have a S&W Model 14 (38 SPL) that I sometimes shoot on league nights for fun. It's a blast. On timed and rapid my 1st shot is single action, and the others are double action. It takes getting used to, but it's all about trigger control. I'd like to have a Curio and Relic K22 Masterpiece to go with it.
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On timed- and rapid- with my 17-8/617-4/617-6, I actually cock the hammer for every shot; I usually have half-a-second to a whole second to spare in the rapid-fire, and I pull in decent scores--roughly 195 out of 200 (my league shoots a double National Match course) in both stages. I've been looking for a S&W 14-6 or -7 (I'd prefer a -6; -7 was made with MIM parts) with the full-barrel underlug (to control muzzle-flip) and factory drilled-and-tapped frame (to mount a red dot) to complement my .22s...though I might as well D&T my 686-1 and use .38SPL-like loads in it.
 
decent

I pull in decent scores--roughly 195 out of 200 (
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You are being modest. You are shooting 97+ on rapid fire targets - those are High Master averages - and doing so with a revolver. Better than "decent".
Pete
 
darkgael said:
You are being modest. You are shooting 97+ on rapid fire targets - those are High Master averages - and doing so with a revolver. Better than "decent".
Pete
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That's brought down a bit by my average 180s-185s in slowfire, though. Out of 600 points, I usually get somewhere between 570-580. Still a Master score, though, I guess.

And I haven't tried it with larger calibers, just 22s (see, I don't have a model 14 or 25/625, so I don't know how I'd do).

But thank you for the compliment!
 
yep.

Take credit. That's fine shooting. And Mike in MD - also....if he's averaging in the mid 850's out of 900, he is shooting at or VERY close to Master scores.
And you both talk about it like everyone does it. Not. They don't.
Pete
 
Hmm...a Master score is, what, 95%? So he'd need to pick up just 5 more points (855) to make the cut.

You can do it!

So anyways, OP--I'm certain that any hardware you choose with decent length (longer sighting radius == good) and with adjustable sights (not having to apply any Kentucky Windage == good) will be good enough to get started, and even get you to shooting Master scores. A semi-auto makes things easier (faster reloads, more time to aim between shots) and is inherently more accurate (no barrel/cylinder gap for the bullet to jump before it hits the rifling).

I prefer revolvers for their reliability and their balance/feel. If a round doesn't light I can hold the trigger down and cock the hammer for a second try or I can just move onto the next round and take an alibi. I usually get a couple dud rounds in each 550-round brick of Federal #750 wally-world bulk ammo I use in my 617-4. I haven't taken an alibi since I started shooting Bullseye last year. Plus, I need something to do (cocking the hammer) between shots on timed and rapid =)

I'll echo melchloboo's statement that if you're going to do Bullseye competitively, you're going to need a lot of trigger time (thousands of rounds of live-fire + thousands more dry-firing), whatever platform you choose.

Though now I kinda wanna get a 22A or a Neos or a Buckmark and see how good I can get with one; maybe next season, or maybe I can shoot my revolvers for record and shoot other stuff for practice at the weekly matches--my league allows shooters to do that, if there are open slots on following relays.
 
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Thanks KLE,
I have started thinking I might actually be able to make a "go" of it if I try bullseye because I've recently managed a few targets very similar to this one (25 yards "bullseye style" with a CZ-75 in .40 S&W).

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The target certainly isn't official but the dimensions are close enough to give a good approximation and I feel okay if I'm at the "78 of 100" point to start. I haven't tried anything at 50 yards yet though.

(We'll kindly skip what my targets looked like on the bad days :D )
 
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http://www.flat5.net/shooting.htm -- at the bottom of this page are the B6 (50 yard slowfire) and B8 (25 yard timed/rapid-fire) targets I use to practice/train on. I print out a bunch of these at work, and then take them to the range and put holes through them. Then I take them down, and tape four of them together to make a square, and use the (all white) back of that for the next range visit to simulate the size of a real B6/B8 target (so I can practice sight picture as well), repairing the center with a fresh print-out after every 20 shots.

In my house, I have a long-ish section (my living room -> dining room -> kitchen -> kitchen table area) that I use for dryfire practice; I cut black circles a little smaller than the B8 target to aim at (since it isn't quite 25 yards long, I have to compensate by making the circles smaller), making doubly sure the gun I'm practicing with isn't loaded with live ammo.

I use red-dots on my target guns, which help me see how the gun twitches as I squeeze the trigger, both at home and on the range--during matches, during the initial slowfire stage, my first few trigger pulls will be dryfires to help me settle down before doing it 'for real'.

I hope this helps you get started!
 
http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=331167 -- actually, this thread has a ton of good info, too. I particularly liked what melchloboo said:

5. Right gun. You're not getting married to it. If you want to get serious in Bullseye then get used to the idea of trying a gun out for a while and selling it or shelving it if it doesn't work out. Rugers hold their value well, and most shooters keep their old ruger around no matter what, even after they move on to other target pistols. Maybe if you take up the .45 (required for NRA CP) then you'll want to go with a marvel conversion kit... Lots of maybes down the road. Again, you're not marrying the gun. Its like a golf club or tennis racket as far as you're concerned.
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(emphasis mine).

The key is to get started, and then figure out what works for you.
 
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ZeSpec:
25 yards "bullseye style" with a CZ-75 in .40 S&W).
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You are shooting that with iron sights, one-hand unsupported with a CZ 40.....good for you. You'll be fine. Now get a target pistol and practice. Go to some Bullseye matches and see what guns are on the line. Watch how it works.
All of you guys.....think Camp Perry next summer.
Pete
 
Can I do .22s only or will I need to get something in .45? (and can I use .45 Colt, if I go that route?)
 
perry

I knew an old lady - older than me at the time - who used to shoot Bullseye with two guns, a .22 and a .38. She didn't own a .45. When she went to a 2700 match, she'd leave after the CF stages.
Every summer, until she couldn't drive too well, she'd get in her car and drive from NYC to Camp Perry, Ohio (at 45 mph), shoot the .22 and CF matches and then drive home.
Pete
 
Sure, and maybe we can get TinyGnat in on this, too...if he'd just come back; I haven't seen him at the MPL in ages...
 
S&W 22a is a great gun for shooting and learning to shoot it also has the full rail for mounting a scope. The one I bought from Academy shoots a little over 1" groups at 15 yrds. I can not shoot that good, but I think 1" at 15yrds is ok for open sites. I paid $220 for the pistol and I know the club I am a member of always look for people wanting to shoot Bulls Eye. If you do not have the money right now get the S&W 22a and dont look back you can shoot all day long for $14.00 and learn to shoot good doing so.
 
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