NEwbie Question Choice of carry for hiking

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Probably costs more than you are considering but if I had to have a smallish 45 this would be the one. A Nighthawk Predator III. Heinie straight8 night sights, one hole accurate.
 
Ok been to store, checked out sizes etc, g29 it is. maybe get an magazine with a small extension to make grip a little longer

They have a used one that looks clean enough. With 4 mags ( 2 extended ones)and a few extra bits $465 but they did a cash discount last time when I bought my shotgun so will check that out when I commit

Is there anything I need to be wary of buying a used gun?

They also said they can do a new gen 4 for about 585 so would you go used or new?
 
Of those a Glock 21 no doubt, but also consider a 30, 22 and 23. The .40 and .45 are my two favorites and those guns are about the best there is.
 
@OP; There's nothing wrong with buying a used gun. That used 29 you're looking at is probably just fine. Just check the barrel, recoil spring etc and make sure its up to snuff. The gun shop probably has other Glocks available that you can inspect and compare. Unless there are signs of abuse, I would have no problem getting a used one to save a little extra money.
 
I would jump on the used 29 with the 4 mags, I don't know if its true about the gen4 glock but I seem to remember rumors about not being as reliable as previous Glocks. I would think with the 29 you should be set for anything west of the Rockies. I think I would stick to standard velocity loads to start with anyhow.
 
I usually say Ruger Mk II, but since you're weight conscience try the Browning Buckmark or even the Baretta Nano.

A good .22 is going to be much more useful.
 
Why the fascination with 10mm?

Ammo is hard to find, ammo that size is going to be heavy, if you DO need to use it, you may be flinching from recoil or noise. Your biggest threat is going to be human, so concealability would be a big plus.

Realistically, a J frame of some flavor is all you need.

So now we get to want.

If you simply WANT a 10mm, well, THAT I completely understand.

But from a utilitarian perspective, a 10mm would be, for me, my last choice.
 
Why the fascination with 10mm?
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Superior sectional density. A 200 grain 10mm has the same sectional density as a 255 grain .45. A 230 grain .45 has the same sectional density as a 180 grain 10mm. It's the same argument .357 shooters have advocated for years.

As far as availability, many of us either load our own or have ammunition shipped.
 
Oddly enough, except for wally world all my LGS's have 10mm ammo readily available even the ones that don't sell 10mm guns. 50 round boxes cost around 40 dollars, which really isn't that different from other pistol calibers. Underwood's is about the same once shipping is factored in-- but you get higher velocity/KE and their brass is also very good for reloads. The 10 is just an amazingly efficient cartridge.
 
Something like a Glock 23 would be ideal, it's pretty much the perfect size for the power and capacity you get. Compared to something like a 29, the 23 will be thinner, weigh less and hold more ammo and it shoots the same exact caliber and weight bullets as the 10mm and you get a much broader selection of commonly available ammunition and premium JHP choices.

There isn't enough difference between the two in a ballistic sense that any living thing could tell the difference. A 29 load to hot might shoot a 200gr hardcast to 1200-1250, but the 23 can shoot the same 200gr hardcast to 1100-1150 fps while holding more capacity. That velocity difference means essentially nothing in effectiveness, so going with the pricier 10mm doesn't really make sense...well unless you've already got your mind made up.

If you like the wider, heavier size of the 29, I'd look into getting a 30 instead. For full size I'd still recommend either a 21 or 22. Many get wrapped up in energy figures but between the .40, 10mm and .45, with proper placement it's splitting hairs as all three will be effective, but it makes sense to choose one that isn't a borderline rarity that will cost you a lot more money in the long run.
 
This is an interesting article about the 180 grain bullet being used in the 40 cal pistol. Long story short, it can be dangerous, especially in Glocks.

Despite what the 40 cal fans want to be true, it is not equal to the 10mm.
 
I think velocity is king and the 10mm has some definite advantages over the 40, particularly on the upper edge of the 10mm's loading capabilities.

But I also think the 40 is good enough for light hiking in the lower 48 and I wouldn't be inclined to lug around a G29 in the Arkansas heat when my G27 would cover that roll in a noticeably lighter, thinner and more concealable package.

Thats just me... you sure cant go wrong with the G29.
 
I had a G27 and I got rid of it because it was just too snappy to be either fun or effective against multiple targets (too slow getting on target after recoil and muzzle flip).

In contrast my Walther PPS .40 with a Limbsaver 12012 grip sleeve recoils like a 9 and fits in my pocket everyday with flush bottom magazine.

Both the Glock and the PPS are 100% reliable. The XDS 45 I had, not so much.

I just bought my 2nd 10mm, I don't think it's going away. It's a great caliber for the combination of hunting and self defense.
 
For defense against people in the woods, you don't need anything more than a 9mm. Period. You don't have to factor in shooting through barriers, like auto glass, or doors. You will be face-to-face with an unarmored target. Any barriers out there would likely stop any other round as well (tree trunks). The weight savings and added capacity will seriously outweigh the diameter of the bullet, not to mention the easier follow-up shots.

If you were talking about hunting hogs in the woods, I would probably suggest a Glock 20, so you can take advantage of the added benefits of a full-powered 10mm round. For people, the rounds just don't do any better than each other. I have worked with trauma gunshot victims routinely for the past few years, and you would be hard-pressed to find anyone in the field who can attribute anything of significance to the caliber of your service pistol.
 
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