New York State Gun Control - Passed!
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war_elephant
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Maybe this would be a good time for magazine manufacturers and gun makers to simply refuse to sell guns, ammo or magazines to the State of NY or any of the political subdivisions thereof. Or at least no more than a 7 round mag. 
One way to look at it is that 10-round magazines are readily available. In the eyes of many, limiting handguns to 10 rounds doesn't place a huge imposition on gun owners. In places like New York, most folks already have them by default.
Now, switching to 7 rounds will require new manufacturing and tooling. Such a law will require people to dispose of or relinquish property they already own without compensation. Serious 5th Amendment issues abound.
Willie Sutton
Moderator
Now, switching to 7 rounds will require new manufacturing and tooling. Such a law will require people to dispose of or relinquish property they already own without compensation. Serious 5th Amendment issues abound.
Which is different, exactly, from what happened when NJ passed it's own EBR Ban and NJ residents had no choice but to sell or surrender?
This has already been done elsewhere, with lasting results.
Willie
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Which is different, exactly, from what happened when NJ passed it's own EBR Ban and NJ residents had no choice but to sell or surrender?
This has already been done elsewhere, with lasting results.
Willie
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I used to espouse this idea (probably on this very forum!) ..... until someone kindly reminded me that "Evil is not overcome by fleeing from it." ...... The question becomes, "Run" or "Fight" .... if you can effectively fight, do so. If everyone that did not have "Shall Issue" CCW or better had run when I was saying "move", then we'd not have had the huge gains we have had, and instead would be looking at fewer states with any Carry Rights ....
God Bless him..... if this is so, and you have a spare dime, bless him as well, as you are able ......
Will that help the folks that have their lives ruined in the present while the case wends it's way through the legal system?
Ruthless beat me to it.... Whatever you do, Ruth, don't go all James Yeager ..... Calm and resolute is the better play, all the way around. If you can not abide life in New York, Nebraska is nice, still .......
This! It'd be difficult to do, with aso many sources, but it cetainly would be just.
10rd to 7 'toughest gun control package in the nation' passed by New York Senate
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. Corruption in New York again, are you guys going to leave the state now? this is insane, a bill that says "well balanced but removes magazines from 10 to 7. Like 99% of firearms. What about those 8 shot revolver and 9 and 10 shot revolver 22lrs? guess your all doooomed. That's going outlaw like most rifles too, who makes 10 shot 22lr magazines? Ruger doesn't have 7 shot magazines for 10/22. What about the bolt actions that hold 10 rounds like the enfield? What about shotguns with 8+1 ? Magazine tube/magazine box/magazine.
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. Corruption in New York again, are you guys going to leave the state now? this is insane, a bill that says "well balanced but removes magazines from 10 to 7. Like 99% of firearms. What about those 8 shot revolver and 9 and 10 shot revolver 22lrs? guess your all doooomed. That's going outlaw like most rifles too, who makes 10 shot 22lr magazines? Ruger doesn't have 7 shot magazines for 10/22. What about the bolt actions that hold 10 rounds like the enfield? What about shotguns with 8+1 ? Magazine tube/magazine box/magazine.CharlieDeltaJuliet
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Tom, what if you own a handgun that has a 14 round (just for argument sake) magazine. The manufacturer and aftermarket companies do to make a 10 rounder for it.... They are forcing the owners to sell them within a year...
I am just curious. I have heard so much speculation. I had even heard first it was any firearm that could accept a magazine more than 7 rounds, but think that was just BS..
What about a Nylon 66 .22? Don't they hold 14 rounds in a tube magazine? Are they banned?
I am just curious. I have heard so much speculation. I had even heard first it was any firearm that could accept a magazine more than 7 rounds, but think that was just BS..
What about a Nylon 66 .22? Don't they hold 14 rounds in a tube magazine? Are they banned?
RampantAndroid
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If I can get my legalese right here: hope they put a stay. Or injunction. Or whatever prevents enforcement until the court case is resolved. Oh, and bury them.
vranasaurus
New member
This bill has serious 2nd and 5th amendment issues.
Castrating every convicted sex offender would save at least one child. Since were talking about violating constitutional rights to save children why stop with guns?
Castrating every convicted sex offender would save at least one child. Since were talking about violating constitutional rights to save children why stop with guns?
This is just a rather underhanded way to ban most semi-automatics.
The only way I can live with that is if every government agency also has the same restrictions placed on them. If the government needs AR15's and 30 round magazines, then so do I.
I'm not burying mine, I loaded them, ALL OF THEM! I'm not in NY but I have every magazine I own ready to go none the less.
kayakersteve
New member
It's true! Just called Jim Tresmond and spoke with him personally. He is starting a class action lawsuit to suppport all affected by this draconian legislation. If you live in NYS and are affected please call him 716.202.4301.
Jack_Bauer24
New member
NY Proposed Legislation Looks BAD
Looks as if NY residents are going to have it very, very rough if this legislation passes.
Proposed:
* ban on pre 1994 mags with cap of 11 or more
* ban on mags over 7 rounds
* background checks on all ammo purchases
* mental health reporting which is to be checked against the (new??) gun registry database
* 1 feature test for AW. Bushmaster AR banned by name* 10 round mags to be grandfathered in but may only be loaded with 7 rounds (read elsewhere this will be a misdemeanor)
* all sales of ammo from registered ammo dealers to be reported to local police
* background check on all ammo purcahses
* ban of direct internet ammo purchases
* ammo purchases to go through FFL
* five year renewable registration for AW and handguns
http://open.nysenate.gov/legislation/bill/S2230-2013
Looks as if NY residents are going to have it very, very rough if this legislation passes.
Proposed:
* ban on pre 1994 mags with cap of 11 or more
* ban on mags over 7 rounds
* background checks on all ammo purchases
* mental health reporting which is to be checked against the (new??) gun registry database
* 1 feature test for AW. Bushmaster AR banned by name* 10 round mags to be grandfathered in but may only be loaded with 7 rounds (read elsewhere this will be a misdemeanor)
* all sales of ammo from registered ammo dealers to be reported to local police
* background check on all ammo purcahses
* ban of direct internet ammo purchases
* ammo purchases to go through FFL
* five year renewable registration for AW and handguns
http://open.nysenate.gov/legislation/bill/S2230-2013
Willie Sutton
Moderator
A few observations:
Seems like a done deal. I expect that by the time I re-check the news tonight it will have been passed and signed.
This is the paragon of a state that has gone wrong, and where the people have become sheeple... just being told what to do and when to do it. It will be interesting to see how the next elections play out there. Really, if I lived there, this would be sufficient to cause me to leave. That's from someone who lived thru NJ's own EBR Ban some decades back.
There will obviously be court challenges, and it will be interesting to see how they play out.
It'll be interesting to watch the first old man arrested for having his own Fathers WW-II Luger in the bedroom drawer with it's 2 matched magazines in the holster.
It will equally be interesting watching the level of "enforcement" upstate, by local LEO's who undrstand that this crosses the line between anhything resembling common sense and simple power.
Willie
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Seems like a done deal. I expect that by the time I re-check the news tonight it will have been passed and signed.
This is the paragon of a state that has gone wrong, and where the people have become sheeple... just being told what to do and when to do it. It will be interesting to see how the next elections play out there. Really, if I lived there, this would be sufficient to cause me to leave. That's from someone who lived thru NJ's own EBR Ban some decades back.
There will obviously be court challenges, and it will be interesting to see how they play out.
It'll be interesting to watch the first old man arrested for having his own Fathers WW-II Luger in the bedroom drawer with it's 2 matched magazines in the holster.
It will equally be interesting watching the level of "enforcement" upstate, by local LEO's who undrstand that this crosses the line between anhything resembling common sense and simple power.
Willie
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