NEW WORLD ORDER?

Boneyard

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I am new to the firing line so please excuse my ignorance...can sombody please explain to me what the NEW WORLD ORDER is?...
I have heard about a hundred different stories on this and I am tottally confused...
Is it a Masonic thing?

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Hello and Welcome,

I don't know what others have told you. So I will give you my opinion of what I consider to be the N.W.O.

IMHO, it is the United Nation and others who's agenda is a one world government headed by the U.N. with the total disarmament of the worlds civilian population, especially the United States, being the first major feat to be accomplished.

Here are a some links, you decide.
http://www.un.org
http://www.un.org/rights/50/decla.htm
http://www.iansa.org

Hope this helped.

Sgt.K
 
Boneyard-New World order is a phrase coined by George Bush the Elder as a way of explaining the paradigm shift that occurred when we became the world's only Superpower. It would be easy to dismiss this as a pipe dream in some politicians heated fantasy world, were it not for the fact that as a nation the USA has been giving up it's sovereignty to non elected organizations such as the International Monetary Fund, the World Trade Organization (G7 or G9 previously), and the United Nations for the last 40 years. Each of these entities has in one way or another coerced or cajoled the US into signing treaties against the best interests of our nation, in order to "level the playing field" for all nations. As an example, one should look at the Kyoto Accord that the Senate, rightly to my mind, has refused to ratify; or to GATT/NAFTA, which has had the immediate result of moving jobs from this nation to overseas locations in the southern cone which have lower payscales and living standards. The same can be said of "normalizing" relations with Communist China. All that has resulted from that is a massive loss of employment in the US, and a huge transfer of technologies in critical areas such as aerospace and computers to our enemies in China. Add to this our becoming the 911 force du jour for the UN, and the UN actively trying to disarm ALL people of the world, starting with the USA, and even someone as dense as me starts to scratch his head. Ever wonder why the National Rifle Association pushed for and received Non Governmental Organization (NGO) status in the UN? The UN movement for universal civilian disarmament is the reason. Guess what? When the populace is disarmed, the people become subjects, not citizens, and as such will have no way to resist a world "Federation" of countries. That in a coconut shell is what people mean by "New World Order".
Mike
 
Let me see if I have this complete,
The NWO consists of the folowing:
Rick and Scot Steiner,
Kevin Nash,
Bret Hart,
Jeff Jarret,
Big Brian Adams.

Did I miss anyone?
 
Where do all these people come up with the NWO is Masonic thing? Sheeesh! That's right, I'm a evil Mason, and me and the boys are taking over, ya' get it? There ain't nothin' nobody can do!! So just give up!!! insert mean and evil laugh here. longhair
 
THE MASONIC LODGE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE NWO!
I'm a 32nd degree mason and have been for years, the NWO was unknown to me until just a few years ago, and the Masonic Lodge is not and never has been involved with the NWO.
Ask George Washington.

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Here is another reference for your NWO research... http://www.thenewamerican.com/focus/conspiracy/index.htm

If you spend some time in The New American reference library accessed from the above link, you will undoubtedly find answers to your questions about the NWO.

It's interesting however, how some people give George Bush credit for "coining" the phrase, "New World Order". The fact is, the term has been around for some time, but has always been used secretly among NWO conspirators. Specifically, Mr. Bush no doubt learned of the NWO during his college days at Yale University where he became a member of The Order of Skull & Bones (a secret society at Yale, born of Masonic ancestry). Bonesmen, as they are called, are also referred to as New World Order "Warriors". The NWO reference to freemasonry is no coincidence, however. Although you cannot give complete credit for the NWO to masons, it is a fact that the hierarchy of freemasonry includes a "secret society" of sorts, whereby the highest degreed masons share the true agenda of freemasonry, which isn't shared with its freshmen members. Loyalty, secrecy, and devotion to an ultimate agenda is typical throughout these secret societies. Skull & Bones is notorious for its members reaching high positions in government, especially in the intelligence agencies (George Bush was CIA director).

Other secret societies which are just recently "coming out" (publicly discussing NWO issues), include NWO conspiratory organizations such as the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), the Trilateral Commission, and The Bilderbergers. The UN, on the other hand, is simply the vehicle in which the leftists dream of reaching a NWO, or "globalization". This is where you get chills finding out about a UN controlled "World Army", "World Police", "International Court", "Global disarmament", and other similar global goals, which BTW, completely ignore our AMerican sovereignity.

You'll need to be acutely aware that the deaper you dig into this subject, the more you will be targeted for retribution. The leftist agenda absolutely hates to be identified, criticized, or connected to the dreaded term, "conspiracy". You will find that those organizations such as The John Birch Society (who publish The New American magazine and website), are favorite targets of the leftists, since JBS lives to expose the antics, activities, and the agenda of the NWO conspirators. Labels like, "right wing extremists", "the anti-government movement", and "conspiracy theorists" are given to these patriotic pro-American, pro-Constitutional organizations in order to discredit their findings.

The more you learn about the NWO, the more you will connect every single political action today with it. That the term, "conspiracy" seems nearly like a childhood game, when compared to what you'll soon find out.
 
I tend to think the truth is more insidious: governments, by nature, assume increasing amounts of power. It's hard to think of a more frightening reality and this is easily historically proveable.
 
2b1ask1

Seen on a license plate not long ago... ;)

FWIW... Masonry is a worldwide Fraternal organization, not political... although they can generate some political muscle, but with more members than the NRA, gee, what a surpise.

The only difference is that they don't maintain a lobbying effort like most politically centric organizations, and they absolutely DO NOT solicit membership, or interest. That is left on the individual.

Sorry for gettig a little off-topic.
 
Yeah, what Spectre said.

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"The day I turn in my own countrymen, will be the day I put a bullet in my own head".
--George Harris, Patriot Games--
 
Boneyard, the same people will tell you that:
- the CIA killed JFK
- there is a secret Jewish organization which is dominating the world
- The Pope can require anything from a Catholic and is secretly dominating the world (I wonder if he is Jewish too?)
- There is a secret leftist international Komintern whose sole goal is to corrupt America
- The CIA can cover up anything that happens in the US and does
- The Government has shadowy powers which it uses to a) make people disappear b)keep shameful secrets from the citizens forever c)bring to fruition evil schemes d)if you ever start talking about this they will go after you too.

There are nuts and crackpots everywhere my friend. Next thing they'll talk about devils taking over your soul or aliens abducting them from the middle of their fields. Believe only what can be proved and use Ockham's razor as needed. You can't go wrong with good, solid common sense.
 
On the Roosevelt Memorial in Washington, DC is the following enscription:

"They (who) seek to establish systems of government based on the regimentation of all human beings by a handful of individual rulers call this a new order. It is not new and it is not order."

Address at Annual Dinner of White House Correspondence Association Washington,
D.C. 3/15/41
http://www.nps.gov/fdrm/Inscriptions.htm
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Either you believe in the Second Amendment, or you don't.

Stick it to 'em! RKBA!

[This message has been edited by Dennis (edited February 01, 2000).]
 
I've been trying to figure out the same thing for years myself.

You end up feeling kind of like a rat gnawing on a beached whale. The scope and magnitude of the movement(s) is just too big to sink a tooth into.

Here's a place to start:
http://www.hevanet.com/nitehawk/nwo23.html

Here's my take:

The essentials of the NWO are the same combinations that we've seen throughout history. I'm talking Old Testament here. The interplay of Money, Political Power, Force and Religion (now science) to attain an end beneficial to those who are "in". In that respect, the nature of the movement is pretty traditional: get power to get more money to get more power and so on with a few utopian Socialists thrown in for good measure.

Why? Powerful people like power, so they seek it. Wealthy people like wealth, so they get together with the power people and figure out how to generate more of it. Nothing new there. Utopianists are motivated by who knows what (God complex?) and they also seek to consolidate power/wealth (Can't have a utopia with everyone running around doing their own thing, can you? In the utopianist view of the world, we would all be fine if we would just think like they did. Utopianists are egomaniacal and almost always Socialist, even Hitler fit this category).

So, somewhere around the beginning of this century (maybe sooner) utopianists like Cecil Rhodes (of Rhodes Scholar fame - Clinton was a Rhodes Scholar) envisioned a World Govt. His writings are pretty much public info, so don't let people tell you this is just wild "conspiracy theory." The Rhodes Scholarship exists to bring about World Govt and train the future leaders. This is well documented.
About the same time, industrialists and bankers set up Central Banks (essentially monopolies on money/capital. Our own Federal Reserve is just that. We really have only ONE bank in this country) and International Monetary Funds as well as international organizations and secret societies. Basically these institutions served to make the rich richer and control the flow of capital.

Witness how today a loud fart from Greenspan can shake the stock market. Do you wonder why that is? Well, its because he controls the flow of capital through the Fed Reserve. By the way, he is NOT a govt employee. Who does Greenspan work for, anyway???

Then WWI scared the hell out of everybody and it was decided that we needed a League of Nations. I think this was really the galvanizing organization that pulled all of these power-seekers together. They now had a World Organization that could help them attain their objectives.

Now I'm going to say some things that will make some of you angry. I'm used to it. WWII was more about dominance and establishing NWO hierarchy than anything else. Hitler wanted his own NWO as did Stalin. The Japanese wanted to carve out thier own chunk similar to what the Western Europeans and U.S. did with thier colonies in the Far East. An objective perspective of WWII shows us that the Japanese emulated the Colonial powers in their quest for power and dominance. The Japanese are great imitators and they just copied and improved on what they saw the world's great powers doing. Decades later they did the same thing and took over the auto industry.

We were pretty content to sit it out on the sidelines until Dec 7 1941. Similarly, we were happy to sit it out in WWI until the sinking of the Lusitania. Not to diminish the atrocities committed by the Nazis and Japanese, or to apologize in any way, but we didn't have too much concern until attacked. For the record, I think we HAD to fight WWII. Our interests were directly threatened on many fronts.

Did we really care that Hitler and Tojo were invading sovereign nations, destroying entire populations, killing millions of innocents? Well, let's just say that Stalin did the same thing on an even larger scale and we just sort of shrugged it off.

Why did Hitler's invasion of half of Poland prompt Britian and France to declare war, when Stalin simultaneously invaded the OTHER half of Poland and nobody made a squeek? How is it that 13 million Ukranians were intentionally starved to death in the 30's by Stalin and nobody made an issue of it (even today, with the evidence uncovered in the Soviet archives, nobody will make a big stink about this)? Why did the Latvians, Lithuanians and Estonians cheer when the Nazis entered their countries? Why did Finland side with the Nazis? Ever hear of the Ukranians that helped the Nazis? The answer is that for those who had to choose between the Nazis and Stalin, the choice to support Hitler obviously wasn't too difficult. (disclaimer: I am not a Nazi and hate everything he stood for).

For those of you who are already fuming and calling me an apologist and believe WWII was a great crusade to rid the world of evil and make safe for Democracy, yadda yadda yadda, well let me just say that I think you need to re-examine history. Yes, part of WWII was about defeating evil and protecting democracy and all that. Now put away the flag and look at the economics involved. Beneath the battlefields of WWII are some of the richest natural resources on earth. Get out your map, I dare you. Its not a coincedence. To get the monopoly on the NWO, all parties involved needed those resources and they knew it.

Since WWII we've seen the consolidation of power and the implementation of a framework for World Govt. Its complex and subtle, but the seeds of the NWO planted a century ago are sprouting now. On the social side, we've seen the destruction of traditional belief systems worldwide (not just in the West). In order to consolidate power, you've got to get rid of all of those pesky traditions that tie people to old systems of govt and economies.


On the political side, we've seen the marriage of big gubmint and big capital. Wonder how NAFTA passed when it does more harm than good for the American people? HMMM, just who benefited from that anyway? The World Trade Organization is right now passing international trade rules WE THE PEOPLE are bound to. Who's YOUR representative to the WTO? What are the goals? Do they have a political agenda as well? Is it one you would support? How would a block of voters go about influencing the decisions of the WTO? Try thinking along these lines.

The NWO is big, but probably not as organized as we think. Lots of competitors who see a future with a dominant central power structure which they can use to thier own advantage. Lots of companies, organizations and individuals with different motives but the same goal. I doubt the Masons have anything to do with it.

They've collectively affected social change, controlled capital and even managed to convince millions that they have their best interests at heart. Science (the new religion) has become a prostitute to the forces of Globalism and now we see the "objective" scientists advancing the cause as well.

The last piece of the puzzle for them is Monopoly of Force. When they have that its GAME OVER (one reason why the UN is so concerned about YOUR guns is that U.S. Citizens have a substatial pool of small arms. What other possible reason does the UN have to stick its nose into our domestic policy issues? Do you think Kofi Annan has the interests of "the children" at heart? Then why the near silence on the killing of MILLIONS of children in the Sudan?)

Take it or leave it, this is how I see it playing out. The next step is going to have to be a big one. The attacks on Serbia were just a warm up for the big showdown between nations that want to maintain sovereignty and those who seek to eliminate the concept of sovereignty altogether. You will have to join the team or be subjugated. Don't get me wrong, there were no good guys in the Kosovo war, but you have to wonder what prompted the full force of the U.S. military to be brought to bear on what amounted to a small regional ethnic conflict when there are dozens of similar conflicts going on all over the world.

Just my .02. Good luck in your search for the NWO.

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"Put a rifle in the hands of a Subject, and he immediately becomes a Citizen." -- Jeff Cooper

"The fact is that the average man's love of liberty is nine-tenths imaginary, exactly like his love of sense, justice and truth. He is not actually happy when free; he is uncomfortable, a bit alarmed, and intolerably lonely. Liberty is not a thing for the great masses of men. It is the exclusive possession of a small and disreputable minority, like knowledge, courage and honor. It takes a special sort of man to understand and enjoy liberty - and he is usually an outlaw in democratic societies." -- H.L. Mencken, February 12, 1923, Baltimore Evening Sun
 
DorGunR,

maybe you can console me on this....

Right after I finished my engineering degree, a good friend of mine invited me to join him as a mason. At that time, I was very occupied with self-advancement that I politely declined.

I had the impression then that I can always join later. I did not know about the, "ask one to be one" masonic rule. An individual just could not come up to the lodge and register to be one. In short, you have to be invited in and if deemed worthy, then you can go through the process of becoming a mason.

I regretted my decision not joining then. I am sure that I would have learned a lot more about life as a mason.

well, as the saying goes, "we always have a 20/20 hindsight" :( :( :(
 
Brainiac;
You can join the Masonic Lodge anytime you wish. You said "a good friend of mine invited me to join him as a mason", You friend was wrong and violated a Masonic rule. A Mason should never ask anyone to join the lodge.
YOU MUST BE THE ONE TO ASK TO JOIN. Once you have asked a Mason to assist you in joining a Lodge HE MUST follow thru and assist you in every way in your joining process.
REMEMBER...You must do the asking...not the other way around.
Good Luck! :) :)

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I forgot to mention Scot Hall.

The NWO was started by Scot Hall and Kevin Nash.

Jack 99, the federal reserve chairman is appointed by the president and aproved by the senate, that makes him a goverment employ just like the supreme court justices. The federal reserve is a regulatory agency just like the FAA or the FCC. If you think we only have one bank in the US then I guess we only have one airline and radio station by the same token.
 
DorGunR,

You are right. My memory failed me this time. It was not for the Masonic Lodge that he is a present member of, but was before that when he was a member of the DeMolay Organization (I got confused about this since the Masons are the primary sponsor of the DeMolay). His invitaion was for membership to the DeMolay and not to be a mason.

thanks a lot for the info.

[This message has been edited by Brainiac (edited February 01, 2000).]
 
Roscoe,

Take a good look at your dollar bills. Nowhere will you find the words "U.S. Treasury Note." It will say FEDERAL RESERVE NOTE.

It is NOT a governement agency like the FCC.

For purposes of reference, I'll point you toward sources most likely to be impartial:

http://encarta.msn.com/find/Concise.asp?ti=059DB000

I especially like this part:

"The Fed is sometimes considered a fourth branch of the U.S. government because it is made up of a powerful group of national policymakers freed from the usual restrictions of governmental checks and balances."

(Those nasty checks and balances, always getting in the way of "progress.")

This is the real key to understanding the Fed, however:

"On the other hand, because the Fed is self-financing, Congress has no influence over its budget."

Doesn't sound like a government institution to me. I mean, if they don't get their money from the Govt, and they aren't accountable to Congress, are they really part of the govt?

It's not just an academic question.


Or this one:

http://usgovinfo.about.com/culture/usgovinfo/library/weekly/aa081599.htm?iam=mt

About halfway down is the info on how the banks are each PRIVATELY owned.

So the Fed, a private organization, loans money to all other banks, which MUST be part of the Fed Reserve system by law, AND sets the interest rate for the money loaned. I guess you can make the claim we have a multitude of banks, but the reality is we have one channel of capital.

And no, I still don't know who signs Greenspan's paycheck. I'm willing to wager its not who you think it is, though.
 
If you Look on the back of the Dollar bill on the left..the Pyramid with the eye above it....the words"NOVUS ORDO SECLORUM"..Which I believe is Latin for New World Order..

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