New to pistol reloading

I almost never trim straight walled pistol cases. The only difference it will make is in the crimp. The slightly longer cases will get more crimp than the shorter cases. if you are shooting for accuracy, that might make a difference. Otherwise, for plinking and casual shooting, it shouldn't matter.
 
Only time you may want to trim a straight wall pistol case is when the crimp become very erratic, lacks uniformity or you see small cracks at the case mouth.
You will notice that some pieces of brass get a wicked roll crimp. Toss these to the side and when you have time trim them. That said it will take a long time to see this happen.
I have 44 mag brass from the 70’s I still shoot and it has been trimmed twice in all those years.
Let me add that if you push past the recommended charge weights into the danger zone as I once did you will see the brass grow after each shooting so for what it is worth, there it is.
 
Let's make a distinction here about "pistol" cases and crimp.

I have never heard any quality argument for ever trimming a piece of semi-auto pistol brass and if you are taper crimping properly, the case length on one of these will simply not matter. This is for any "straight wall" pistol brass, which includes 9mm... which isn't straight-wall (it is tapered.) So .25, .32, .380, 9mm, .38 Super, .40 S&W, 10mm, .45 Auto... save your energy.

Revolver rounds that benefit from roll crimping -CAN- make use of trimming but as stated above, it's simply not a common occurrence. .32/.327, .38 Special, .357 .41 .44 Mag, .45 Colt, etc. Get in to the monster magnums (.454 .460 .500 Mag) and you may have a case for prep. (heh, like the pun?! :p)
 
I'll measure a bigger sample when I get a chance but it looks like I won't need to do this step :)

Still need to find primers and dies but in the meantime here's a picture of the beauty that needs feeding :D





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in some cases,no pun intended)

Many moons ago,(mid 70's), I was heavily into metallic handgun silhouette. My production and unlimited shooter was my SBH with a 7.5 barrel. The match rounds I loaded for that Ruger were carefully assembled and tested many times for grouping. I found that crimp consistency was very important. The ONLY way to get that hard consistent crimp was to trim the cases.

Often I had to go UNDER recommended minimum case length. Trimming also gets the case mouth square. This leads to more uniform crimps.

I would practice with lead bullets. In order to do that, I had to start casting. That began the life long casting hobby. The mold was the classic Kieth Lyman 429 SWC . (Can't remember the exact #.) @ 240 grains, it was real close to the sight settings for the jacketed bullets/

Hornady responded to the popularity of IMSHA by making a truncated cone FMJ,(Full Metal Jacket), with a heavier jacket in the flat front. This 240 grain bullet was what most of us that shot the 44 used. It was very accurate and hit with more authority than any of the soft nosed bullets available then. Theory was that the longer it took for a bullet to fragment on the steel, the more push it would generate.

There I go off subject again! Oh well, maybe someone will appreciate it.
 
I started reloading pre-web so "important" things like case length for my revolvers wasn't known by me. I reloaded prolly 1500-2000 .38 Special rounds and never measured a case. Started reloading .44 Magnum in '80 and eventually purchased 5, .44 Magnums and still don't measure/trim cases. I roll crimp and profile crimp and my ammo still seems to find it's target, sometimes quite well (when I was shooting a lot, mostly indoors, I would routinely get sub 2" groups at 50' outta my Dan Wesson 44H.

If you want to measure and trim your .44 Magnum brass, go ahead. I don't think there is anything detrimental to you or your gun from trimming, nor do I think it's entirely necessary...
 
When loading cast lead bullets, be sure to flare the case mouth and get the bullet sitting straight in the case as you run it into the bullet seating die.
Lead bullets are soft, if not flared and started straight , lead will be shaved or the case will be damaged. Cast doesn't straighten itself when seating.

Match the seating stem to the bullet nose shape. If bullet is flat use a flat stem, round nose use a round nose seating stem. Lead bullets are soft and seating stems have been know to deform the nose.

Lots of stuff to learn , but these should get you started.
Gary
 
All the info here is spot on. All I have to add is that you will be shocked how little work pistol is compared to rifle. Basically no brass prep.
 
I reloaded prolly 1500-2000 .38 Special rounds and never measured a case.

I've got that beat by about 15 fold. Maybe 20. I have never measured a 38 Special case in 30 years of loading.

Now I do trim my range-collected (most all of it collected many many years ago; and/or discharged by me) mixed .357 Mag brass. I do this only one time, and only to ensure a consistent crimp. I barely trim any material off (none in some cases).

Most of my range collected 357 brass is getting old these days. I have since bought many hundred R-P (non-nickel) and a couple thousand *--* (non-nickel). I measured them. All of the R-P are very close to each other. And same with the Starline - but they're a little shorter than the R-P. So I'm not going to trim them; but will keep them segregated.
 
Thanks that's my next mission trying to find powder.


I use HS-6 for moderate power target loads. Why? Because it works and because i can also use it for 357, 9mm also. It can also be used for other stuff .40/10mm, 45acp. Shotguns...

It's not my pick if i was specifically looking a powder puff plinker load for the .44

For that...from what i hear, you may consider Red Dot or Trail Boss.
 
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I will be loading single stage

Trimming actually does matter. UNIFORMITY matters. Length (to a point) does not. You are going to be processing your brass batch wise, right? By the box, 50,100, or by doing them all, and then moving on to the next step in the loading process.

Sizing is very straightforward, and carbide .44 mag dies don't even require any lube.

Case mouth expanding & flaring (and they are two different things, done at the same time) is the first place where uniform case length pays a dividend.

(if you already know this, please disregard)
The lower part of the expander stem performs the same function as the expander ball in a bottle neck rifle die. The case neck is resized in the sizer die, leaving it too small to accept a bullet. The mouth is returned to the correct size by the expander ball when you pull the case out of the rifle die. Straight wall cases use 2 dies to do this.

Now, you need to flare the case mouth just enough to squarely start a bullet. The "step" up portion of the expander plug does this. You will have to find the adjustment for what is just the right amount of flare by trial and error.
Don't flare enough, can't start the bullets /shave lead. Flare too much, the brass is worked too much, and can fail very early (a couple of loading, maybe)

This is where uniformity comes in. If you use a short case, to adjust your dies, a long case will get too much flare, or crimp. Use a long case and the short one doesn't get enough flare, or crimp.

Pistol cases usually don't grow like rifle brass, but the do sometimes grow some. Check for length, once in a while. You will probably only very rarely need to trim because of excessive length.

Trim once, for uniformity, (trim to the length of the shortest case), adjust your flare and crimp on that, and you will be good to go, and not have the issues of one case getting too much, and another not enough.

An alternate method that also works is to separate you brass into batches by length, and adjust dies as needed for each different length batch. Its a bit more labor intensive overall, but it can be done.

Crimp for revolvers is kind of like Goldilocks. There is too hard, too soft, and just right. And which is which varies a bit, with the specific gun and load you are using.

Another tip, one that hopefully you are already doing with rifle loads, is to set the charged cases in the loading block (and with a good light) check the powder levels for uniformity. This is very important with pistol rounds, because many of the powders used can be double (or sometimes even triple) charged without overflowing the case. VERY important when using the fast pistol powders! A double charge of Bullseye (or anything similar) can destroy your gun. (Even a Ruger!!) A double charge of a slow powder (2400 etc) won't all fit in the case, so that's an immediate STOP sign.

Fast powder won't warn you like that, so you HAVE to do a visual inspection to be certain, BEFORE you seat the bullets.

I have other tips, collected over four and a half decades of reloading (3 of them pre-internet). If you have a question, ask. Please. If you don't understand the answer, ask again. We've got a broad expanse of experience here at TFL, and the odds are good that whatever you need to know, someone here knows it, and someone here can explain it is a way you can understand.

They might not, however, be the same person. :rolleyes:
 
Thanks for all the replies everyone I really appreciate the help.


I have all my components and equipment now i just need some time.

I still have about 200 .308's to load for my bolt gun that im hoping to finish this weekend then i can start ob the .44's.

I do have another question about working up loads. There's not much spread in powder charges between a start load and a max load. My Lyman 49th manual lists a start load of 21.5gr and a Max load of 24gr of IMR-4227.

Since I just want a plinking load can i just try 22gr or should I go through the whole spread?
 
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