New Ruger American Pistol
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TheFineLine
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Really.... NO resemblance?
carguychris
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FWIW assuming that the barrel is 4.2" long as with most other Rugers, I've scaled some measurements from one of the pictures posted on TFB, and my measurements give an OAL of 7.6" and a OAH of 5.8" over the rear sight.
This is almost the same height but slightly longer than a PPX or TP9. It's almost the same height but slightly shorter in length than a Ruger SR45, while it's slightly taller and almost the same length as an SR9/40 (or a Glock 21). In both dimensions, it's slightly larger than a S&W SD VE, and significantly smaller than a Hi-Point.
This is almost the same height but slightly longer than a PPX or TP9. It's almost the same height but slightly shorter in length than a Ruger SR45, while it's slightly taller and almost the same length as an SR9/40 (or a Glock 21). In both dimensions, it's slightly larger than a S&W SD VE, and significantly smaller than a Hi-Point.
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All it will take is for some lying through his teeth gun writer to fabricate a bunch of lies about how he shot a cluster of two inch groups offhand at 50 yards, or was at Prescott pinging fist size rocks at 100 yards with every shot, and the Ruger American will soar off the shelves...... until the first major recall that is! 
LMBO ROFL @ Badfinger.
DON'T mince words, Badfinger, tell us how you REALLY feel!
That's FUNNY!
I more TOLERATE than LIKE Glock-style triggers, and will always prefer a thumb-safety with a REAL trigger on it to the ones that somehow seem mandatory on any new polymer-framed wondernine (or .40, or .45). I might feel differently if I'd been trained on a Glock-style trigger first, but I'm by no means certain of it.
I AM certain that my opinion of the magazine disconnect as a Nader-esque bane on autopistols, engineered and required by liability attorneys (who secretly MUST like revolvers) who shoot off their mouths more often than any sidearm, would NOT be changed, had I been trained with a pistol so equipped. I can think of no situation in which the feature is an advantage, except to the owner's adversary. If there's not one on this pistol, I'M happy about it.
DON'T mince words, Badfinger, tell us how you REALLY feel!
That's FUNNY!
I more TOLERATE than LIKE Glock-style triggers, and will always prefer a thumb-safety with a REAL trigger on it to the ones that somehow seem mandatory on any new polymer-framed wondernine (or .40, or .45). I might feel differently if I'd been trained on a Glock-style trigger first, but I'm by no means certain of it.
I AM certain that my opinion of the magazine disconnect as a Nader-esque bane on autopistols, engineered and required by liability attorneys (who secretly MUST like revolvers) who shoot off their mouths more often than any sidearm, would NOT be changed, had I been trained with a pistol so equipped. I can think of no situation in which the feature is an advantage, except to the owner's adversary. If there's not one on this pistol, I'M happy about it.
BigMikey76
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Sure, there is some resemblance - it has a grip, a barrel, a trigger, etc. I just don't see it as being terribly similar to the Hi Point. The stylized tactical looks remind me more of the VP9.
TheFineLine
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I'll still reserve judgement until I've handled/fired/seen pricing on one but it ain't perty.
I don't mind the looks of it at all, but I don't really lust after polymer pistols like others do. It will all come down to the critical dimensions and specifications to rise above the herd. Ruger sure is churning out inexpensive handguns these days and they are usually good so no complaints here. Of course, I'll let everyone else test it out before coming to any conclusions.
for you guys, also posted this over on defensive carry.
these pics are from a gun shop in San Antonio, pictured with the ever popular G 19 for a size ref. , the spec. sheet on the 2 models, shop owner said he was pricing it at $459. I would expect that price to get closer to $400 as more make it into the pipe line.
here is a video too
http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=00138fD...oHmD6TQQLy-FnoUNP0Mp01PsdkdyN2erfUrOKXNnU8w==
these pics are from a gun shop in San Antonio, pictured with the ever popular G 19 for a size ref. , the spec. sheet on the 2 models, shop owner said he was pricing it at $459. I would expect that price to get closer to $400 as more make it into the pipe line.
here is a video too
http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=00138fD...oHmD6TQQLy-FnoUNP0Mp01PsdkdyN2erfUrOKXNnU8w==
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carguychris
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It makes no sense to simultaneously sell 2 pistol lines with almost the same price tag... unless they're planning to drop the SR series.TunnelRat said:
Recall that S&W did this with when they replaced the SWxVE series with the SDx series.
I betcha that Ruger announces an "American Compact" in a few months and the SRs quietly disappear from the catalog soon thereafter.
[EDIT TO ADD: If my speculation is true, it's interesting and perhaps illuminating that Ruger is not initially offering a .40S&W version of the American. I wonder if they're planning to produce it at all; my local LGS managers have told me that .40S&W pistol sales have been steadily declining, to the point that they're now selling at a 1:4-1:5 ratio to 9mm, as compared to a ~1:2 ratio a few years ago.]
Evil Monkey
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probably because of the FBI going back to 9mm and everybody worshiping the FBI.
If the FBI said stick your gun up your butt, everyone would do it. There would be a whole bunch of threads here about how it's better than carrying IWB.
Unless they're planning to go close to $200 below MSRP I don't see it. You can get a SR9c online right now for $350 and even as low as jasmith85 notes. Even not on sale you can come in right around $400. If it does drop to that price I also imagine the SR series might disappear, as like carguychris I wouldn't get the point of two pistol lines at the same price point.
The 9mm has been gaining back favor many years before the FBI did anything.
it looks like a slightly clunkier sig. but c'mon guys, can we get SOMETHING a little different for once............? I hate having to refer to the Taurus Curve as the most innovative pistol of the decade. Let's build on that idea, not particularly meaning "curved", but the idea that gun CAN be different.......maybe not always at the level of the actions/guts/mechanisms but they can be designed to be something different, for better or for worse. This should be the freaking re-awakening of the "Golden Age" of fire arms. They technology available is leaps and bounds what it was just ten short years ago, heck even 5 years ago. I want to see a fully tested pistol in SOME degree of a completely new; either metallurgical processes, action designs, compatibility across a brand of arms of different calibers allowing for quick barrel swaps that include necessary mag blocks and bushings or how like Taurus did it the easy way and just retrofitted a simple cheap-off-the-line tested type of weapon and just stared at the action all day and shed the assumed image of the frame that SHOULD have been built around it and have some non-gunners or at least unorthodox builders find something fresh that may or may not appeal to the masses. So long as it's kept reliable shot-to-shot over courses of fire, trash the prints and get some contemporary artists in there to make us something outta this decade.
The Ruger mentioned looks, in my opinion, like an appealing pistol.....but how many more of these handsome pistols with a tweak here and there to make it different can they keep us happily passing over our coin jars to for a couple slight differences between "this upgraded gun" JUST RELEASED!!!! and this "old & outdated gun" that came out at SHOT 2014 who's tritium sights were enclosed and not exposed with cool webbing on top that does this & this & this & this and therefore is the only gun suitable for HD since we "flipped the script" on HD protection.
No hate to Ruger, i am sure it's a quality pistol and i would be honored to have one, but nothing makes a fella excited anymore when i hear so & so just released this TOTALLY DIFFERENT-GAME CHANGING pistol (i say that, but here i am typing on a gun forum, rather than in bed with my beautiful wife
), but you know what i am saying. Ruger is one of those companies i think has the collective minds, collective experience, the artistic abilities and likely one of the most intelligent group of mechanical engineers that could really make a pistol "Stand out Among the Crowd", not pick and choose which of the features that have all already been done to death do we want to incorporate into our unique and never-before-seen weapons "SYSTEM" and of course we need to add AT LEAST one newly designed "safety-feature" and at least one "newly-designed" tactical feature and at least one "newly-designed" aesthetic" feature to let people know what this pistol is.......something different. what? you don't see it? your just clinging to your Glocks and Galco's and can't fully appreciate the next-gun of pistoleering. At least Ford has the intestinal fortitude to keep bringing back a redesigned Ford Fiesta, even here in the states, despite that it had to be in the Yearbook under the title "The MOST MADE FUN OF CAR in Ford's history, second only to the Mustang II", and actually turned it into a quaint, reliable, economical commuter that retains some style and broadened Ford's market to the 25 and under female crowd w/o
apologizing and it's turned out to be a big seller.....whoooda thunk....?
I love guns, but we are entering the vast wasteland where every four years we get a couple front "slide-serrations" and are expected to crap our pants with enthusiasm. Sorry for yet......ANOTHER RANT THAT'll UNDOUBTEDLY END WITH MY FOOT JAMMED BETWEEN MY TONSILS.........but i just have to admit, outside of the smaller companies, i am extremely disappointed in the lack of ingenuity and lack of natural progression of pistols as of the last dozen years or so.
who has actually made something different? I don't mean it has NEVER been done before them and that it was invented only by the maker, but who took something INTERESTING that may or may not be ideal, but public testing will be needed to reach these conclusions.....and ran with it. putting their reps and dollars on the line to actually bring us something that requires a whole new look on a firearm and a whole different judging criteria. Help me out here, i know i will be missing a ton, talking about since 2000-present day, who had some cajones?
1: Taurus Curve (not for me, but apparently making a name for itself)
2: Taurus View (I didn't say the criteria was for a good idea, simply just an actual new idea, and you can't claim the view wasn't exactly that)
3. Chiappa Rhino (i know, not the first bottom-shooter, but the first to romanticize it and make it an obtainable and desirable weapon to lots of folks)
4: Heizer???? i can't say this counts, more on the side of just adding a couple well fitting add-ons to an already played out and inferior weapons "system(?)
5: Desert Eagle 50AE (i know this doesn't come close to fitting into the last decade, but this still deserves a spot in the "out-of-the-box" pistols, and one of the few that actually captivated gunners and non-gunners alike, scaling up a little known action type to be able to slap the fraction of .50 on the side is a feat of it's own).
6: Strike Pistol System (how do you make another poly striker fit the bill of actually being different, well just simply lower the axis SOOOOO low that you can claim a spot in the Guinness World Book)
7: Berreta PICO (i know that they don't deserve to be mentioned as the designer of the serialized modular chassis, not sure who is but i can guess Sig, but they did it to accommodates the changing demographics of todays shooters. Obviously someone mentioned to the big wigs at Beretta that 34% of new target shooters are women and the PICO taps into that market and allows for your pistol's frame to play along while picking out your shoes for a night out. Love it or hate, whooodunnit?
I will NOT hate on this offering from Ruger, like i said these look like quality pistols and i bet this is going to pass right on by the current crop of Ruger Semi-Auto's and hopefully add a new flair of ergonomics and (might i say) even aesthetic styling to a Ruger semi. But i cannot help but think we should really be breaking the mold right now and putting our capabilities of 3D modeling, daily innovations in CNC capabilities and put these skills to the test of HOW FAR CAN YOU GO to create a usable, comfortable firearm for our massively expanding market that includes shooters that are attracted to pistols that could possibly turn-on to their inner desire to have everything fit into the outstanding aesthetics that make our iPhones/Droids/Xbox Controllers something that are so beautifully simple, yet have the fit and feel of an object that you'd expect to fall from a flying saucer in "star-date":3037, yet still function like a fifth appendage that is more natural to us than wiping our rears after a t-bone at Waffle-House. These companies can CAN and WILL HAVE TO do better than the so-called "next-gen" pistols that are coming out one-after-another-after-another-after-another-after-another that all represent slight variations of the same concepts utilized after the 60's. I think now is the time to attract that crop of "millennial" gun enthusiasts that don't even know they are closeted gun-nuts yet. And aggressive slide serrations are not going to bring the scattered flock home to roost. C'mon Target Superstore's, get in on this opportunity to give the hipsters a fresh new look on self-preservation, deep down they're crying for it.....or are they just crying for no reason
The Ruger mentioned looks, in my opinion, like an appealing pistol.....but how many more of these handsome pistols with a tweak here and there to make it different can they keep us happily passing over our coin jars to for a couple slight differences between "this upgraded gun" JUST RELEASED!!!! and this "old & outdated gun" that came out at SHOT 2014 who's tritium sights were enclosed and not exposed with cool webbing on top that does this & this & this & this and therefore is the only gun suitable for HD since we "flipped the script" on HD protection.
No hate to Ruger, i am sure it's a quality pistol and i would be honored to have one, but nothing makes a fella excited anymore when i hear so & so just released this TOTALLY DIFFERENT-GAME CHANGING pistol (i say that, but here i am typing on a gun forum, rather than in bed with my beautiful wife
), but you know what i am saying. Ruger is one of those companies i think has the collective minds, collective experience, the artistic abilities and likely one of the most intelligent group of mechanical engineers that could really make a pistol "Stand out Among the Crowd", not pick and choose which of the features that have all already been done to death do we want to incorporate into our unique and never-before-seen weapons "SYSTEM" and of course we need to add AT LEAST one newly designed "safety-feature" and at least one "newly-designed" tactical feature and at least one "newly-designed" aesthetic" feature to let people know what this pistol is.......something different. what? you don't see it? your just clinging to your Glocks and Galco's and can't fully appreciate the next-gun of pistoleering. At least Ford has the intestinal fortitude to keep bringing back a redesigned Ford Fiesta, even here in the states, despite that it had to be in the Yearbook under the title "The MOST MADE FUN OF CAR in Ford's history, second only to the Mustang II", and actually turned it into a quaint, reliable, economical commuter that retains some style and broadened Ford's market to the 25 and under female crowd w/oapologizing and it's turned out to be a big seller.....whoooda thunk....?
I love guns, but we are entering the vast wasteland where every four years we get a couple front "slide-serrations" and are expected to crap our pants with enthusiasm. Sorry for yet......ANOTHER RANT THAT'll UNDOUBTEDLY END WITH MY FOOT JAMMED BETWEEN MY TONSILS.........but i just have to admit, outside of the smaller companies, i am extremely disappointed in the lack of ingenuity and lack of natural progression of pistols as of the last dozen years or so.
who has actually made something different? I don't mean it has NEVER been done before them and that it was invented only by the maker, but who took something INTERESTING that may or may not be ideal, but public testing will be needed to reach these conclusions.....and ran with it. putting their reps and dollars on the line to actually bring us something that requires a whole new look on a firearm and a whole different judging criteria. Help me out here, i know i will be missing a ton, talking about since 2000-present day, who had some cajones?
1: Taurus Curve (not for me, but apparently making a name for itself)
2: Taurus View (I didn't say the criteria was for a good idea, simply just an actual new idea, and you can't claim the view wasn't exactly that)
3. Chiappa Rhino (i know, not the first bottom-shooter, but the first to romanticize it and make it an obtainable and desirable weapon to lots of folks)
4: Heizer???? i can't say this counts, more on the side of just adding a couple well fitting add-ons to an already played out and inferior weapons "system(?)
5: Desert Eagle 50AE (i know this doesn't come close to fitting into the last decade, but this still deserves a spot in the "out-of-the-box" pistols, and one of the few that actually captivated gunners and non-gunners alike, scaling up a little known action type to be able to slap the fraction of .50 on the side is a feat of it's own).
6: Strike Pistol System (how do you make another poly striker fit the bill of actually being different, well just simply lower the axis SOOOOO low that you can claim a spot in the Guinness World Book)
7: Berreta PICO (i know that they don't deserve to be mentioned as the designer of the serialized modular chassis, not sure who is but i can guess Sig, but they did it to accommodates the changing demographics of todays shooters. Obviously someone mentioned to the big wigs at Beretta that 34% of new target shooters are women and the PICO taps into that market and allows for your pistol's frame to play along while picking out your shoes for a night out. Love it or hate, whooodunnit?
I will NOT hate on this offering from Ruger, like i said these look like quality pistols and i bet this is going to pass right on by the current crop of Ruger Semi-Auto's and hopefully add a new flair of ergonomics and (might i say) even aesthetic styling to a Ruger semi. But i cannot help but think we should really be breaking the mold right now and putting our capabilities of 3D modeling, daily innovations in CNC capabilities and put these skills to the test of HOW FAR CAN YOU GO to create a usable, comfortable firearm for our massively expanding market that includes shooters that are attracted to pistols that could possibly turn-on to their inner desire to have everything fit into the outstanding aesthetics that make our iPhones/Droids/Xbox Controllers something that are so beautifully simple, yet have the fit and feel of an object that you'd expect to fall from a flying saucer in "star-date":3037, yet still function like a fifth appendage that is more natural to us than wiping our rears after a t-bone at Waffle-House. These companies can CAN and WILL HAVE TO do better than the so-called "next-gen" pistols that are coming out one-after-another-after-another-after-another-after-another that all represent slight variations of the same concepts utilized after the 60's. I think now is the time to attract that crop of "millennial" gun enthusiasts that don't even know they are closeted gun-nuts yet. And aggressive slide serrations are not going to bring the scattered flock home to roost. C'mon Target Superstore's, get in on this opportunity to give the hipsters a fresh new look on self-preservation, deep down they're crying for it.....or are they just crying for no reason
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