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If you want a budget gun that shoots my vote is the Ruger American, especially the Predator version if it is in a cartridge you like. I have 2, one in 308 and a 2nd in 223. They are amazing little guns that tend to put 3 shots into tiny groups.

I have several much nicer rifles that are better built, but none shoot any more accurately even costing 3X as much.
 
Just a FYI for some- Those Cheap rifles are now showing up in F Class & Bench rest Comps. They are holding their own at it also. We have one guy shooting the Savage Axis at 1000 yards and doing very well with it. The money is in the barrel not the stock people. A stock can be replaced very easy and for much less than a high dollar rifle. In the end-It will shoot as good as your high dollar rifle will. This compromise has allowed a lot of people that could not afford to shoot matches now compete and do well.
 
A cheap rifle is what it is!

I don't have a cheapo rifle in my gun cabinent, I have never purchased a cheapo plus don't intend too. I do like quality firearms, I will bring a stainless syn stock rifle home (Ruger Hawkeye) just not a cheap one. I'm quite sure when I pass my Son/Grand son and Son in law will share and will remember me when they use them. I just can't get excited about all the cheap rifles now available, I started with a 30/30 which was adequate for deer hunting until I could afford the rifle I wanted.. William
 
All but the very first versions of the 340 are factory drilled and tapped for a scope mount. And the mounts are still available.
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You're quite right, but the key word was "easily". I can get scope mounts for a Savage Axis or Rem 783 at any decent gun shop as opposed to ordering one from New York.

Besides the main issue with the 340 is that while the 783 is an inexpensive gun the 340 is a cheap gun. I had a couple when I first started out, I outgrew them and I'm not going back.
 
4runnerman-

Where are you going to these 1000 yard matches? I'm in your area and would like to attend. Sorry, not trying to hijack and thanks in advance
 
Loved this line:
Cheap rifles are like mopeds they are fun to ride, but you don't want your friends to see you on them.

Just tell them it belongs to a buddy and you're just sighting-it in for him/her. If you go back and they see you with it again, just say you're trying out new ammo for it. He he.

Actually, everybody needs a Turkey Shoot rifle that isn't fancy, but shoots like crazy. That way, you can sucker people to shoot against you and you can walk away with the prizes.
 
You guys can say what you want about the cheap rifles but my T/C Venture 30-06's first three shot group was 1/2" and its never shot a group over an inch. I havent even shot any of my handloads out of it yet. I bought 2 boxes of Hornady Whitetail 150gr cheap and that is what I used to sight it in.

Im about to be 47yrs old and the first rifle I ever shot other than a .22lr was my M16A1 in boot camp in 1986. Plastic stocks are pretty normal to people my age and younger. I have some rifles with nice wood stocks but Im cool with the man made material being used these days. Most of the stuff I use alot has plastic stocks. Some are pushing 20yrs old and still look very good and holding up very well.

I wouldnt underestimate some of these new rifles. I was gonna get the Ruger American but the 5R rifling sold it with the Venture. Awesome trigger, free floated barrel, pillar bedded, and just over 7lbs. I also liked it because the trigger wasnt the accu-trigger style trigger that some rifles have. I dont take the nice wood stocked rifles out as much now!!
 
I have been able to shoot most of the new inexpensive rifles, some at length. We were recommending Marlins until they got discontinued. The Ruger American and the Mossberg Patriot are the two better "under $500) ones right now, the Mossberg being about $300 for the polymer stock and the RA about $100 more.

I suspect most of the people dissing them have never shot them, much less even handled them. If you are looking for a capable value priced rifle, the Patriot is pretty decent.
 
I think people need to stop blaming the rifle for poor grouping...when my bullets dont go where i want them to, i practice shooting more gooder.

I love when someone at the range brings out their custom built gun and i out shoot them with my spray painted 783, then toss my sheet over it and walk out. Now, whos ordering the cheese pizza?!?!
 
I'm going to go start a thread about how I'm going to buy a Remington 783, Ruger American, and a Savage Axis and put wood stocks, new barrels, and have a gunsmith bed the actions just to see if I can get a rise out of people because I want to spend $$$$ on "throw-away" rifles.
 
I traded a Win 70 push feed for a Marlin XZ and part of the reason was, the Marlin has a composite stock that I could care less if I ding it. And guess what? It shoots way good.
Just my $0.02

As much as I like the Marlin, I wouldn't trade a bare M70 pf action for a Marlin X7. What was so bad about the M70?
 
m going to go start a thread about how I'm going to buy a Remington 783, Ruger American, and a Savage Axis and put wood stocks, new barrels, and have a gunsmith bed the actions just to see if I can get a rise out of people because I want to spend $$$$ on "throw-away" rifles.

No better way to make half the people in the bolt action forum mad at you is to tell them you're going to spend your money on a rifle that costs less and is just as accurate as one that costs more.

Speaking from experience, of course.
 
As much as I like the Marlin, I wouldn't trade a bare M70 pf action for a Marlin X7. What was so bad about the M70?

Probably the lack of a barrel or stock. Instead of a potential project requiring more money and time, he now has a rifle he can shoot today. I can see how that might work for some people.
 
Plastic has no soul? In a way I guess that would be an accurate statement. However, having a plastic stocked rifled bang up against the side of a metal stand or get covered in mud, rain or soaking up the humidity of a swamp doesn't hurt my soul nearly as much as a nice wood stocked rifle does. I own both, hunt with both but with the weather conditions we have right now, I'll take a tupperware furnished rifle over one of my nice walnut guns in a heartbeat.

It's all how you intend to use it.
 
Probably the lack of a barrel or stock. Instead of a potential project requiring more money and time, he now has a rifle he can shoot today. I can see how that might work for some people.
No, his M70 was a functioNing rifle. I said that I, personally, wouldn't trade a bare M70 action for a Marlin X7 even though I own and like the one I have.
 
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