New Rifle- Cooper? Sako? Ideas?

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cordesr1

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I'm looking for a new rifle, this is something i'll probably keep for ever.

Price is somewhat of an object but not that important. i currently have a custom Sako and love it. Its OLD. A gunsmith built it for my dad in 80'.

I was looking at the savage 12 BVSS in .22-250 and there is nothing wrong with it and i know the accuracy is great, But i am not a fan of the Laminate stock.

Looking for something in a 22-250. What are some opinions on the New Sako Varminters?

How would a Cooper compare?

or something else of that quality?


My dad has a FFL for personal use, does anyone know a wholesaler that carries cooper or sako. I can find numerous places that have Tika but not Sako. I know they use the same barrels but the actions have no comparison.
 

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Both are great cooper will cost more. Cooper guarantees 1/2 MOA. Cooper will have a more glossy nicer wood finish. If you got the money i would go cooper, that being said i own a sako and it's one of the finest production rifles i've ever had. Smoothest action i've ever messed with and my favorite 60 degree bolt lift. Trigger is crisp and clean but needs to be lowered it's a bit of a heavy trigger pull.
 
there both fine guns and will do all that you want them to do

have you looked at kimbers they have nice looking rifles in the same class as cooper and sako


p.s. try looking at whittakerguns.com they have all three and have about the best price i have seen
 
Kimber's reputation is shaky now a days from what i understand. That being said i'd own one if they wouldn't have stopped chambering their 84m in .260 rem. Beautiful grade of wood, absolutely light as hell, pacmyer decelerator buttpad, nice mauser action with a 3-position saftey. Like i said i'd own one if that hadn't happened. :rolleyes:
 
Sako over Cooper right now. I have two Cooper's that have been back to the factory twice, and I know of 8 or so others that have been back at least once, and some more than that. Dealer in my area won't even try to sell them anymore. Since Wilson Barrel took over, the quality control just isn't what it used to be.

Bill
 
I have both Coopers and Sakos. I have a Sako 85 in 22-250 that shoots .5 MOA. Can't go wrong with either!
 
My old Sako is my favorite rifle. It's the controlled feed action and is smooth as glass. The rifle dates to somewhere in the 80's and I don't know when they changed over to push feed. Regardless, I went to a big volume gun store and asked to see all the Sako's they had in 270 and I picked the one with the best wood. They grumbled, but they dragged out all the rifles, and I got a beauty. I have rifles by other makers (no Coopers or Kimbers), but the Sako is the best by far.
 
You may want to check out Nosler. They are located in Bend Or. They have designed an action that they think best for hunting. They have 1/2 MOA guarantee on their varmint rifles, and 3/4 MOA on larger calibers. They are worth checking into.
 
Not to change the subject, but,,,

Its OLD. A gunsmith built it for my dad in 80'.
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Old?,,,
Vintage 1980?

Why you young whipper-snapper,,, ;)
In 1980 I had graduated high school,,,
Bummed around for two years after school,,,
Served 8 years active duty in the U. S. Air Force,,,
And been married two years after my discharge from service.

And I'm still going strong.

Again I say,,,
Old?

Shucks my young friend,,,
Being built in 1980 that rifle is barely broken in.

Aarond
 
Sako are the best production rifle on the market. The Sako's action is the smoothest, they have one of the best barrels on a factory rifle and there fit and finish is second to none, also the trigger is the best on a production rifle. Coopers accuracy guarantee is 1/2" 3 shot groups with "Match Grade or Handloaded" ammo and Sako's guarantee is 1" (sub MOA) 5 shot groups with "ANY" factory ammo" IMO if you use handloads or match grade ammo you will at least cut those groups in half. You will not have buyers regret with a Sako and although Cooper are a semi-custom rifle I would put a Sako (85) up against a Cooper anytime.

cordesr1 Whoever has Tikka will be able to order you in a Sako as they are both owned and distributed by Beretta.
 
Aarond thats hilarious lol
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Indeed. All joking aside, My father has a 1970ish Sako Finbear in 30-06 that is a very , very nice rifle. Action is slicker than snot and it is very accurate to boot, and the wood was of high quality before seeing 40 years in the deer woods. I would love to find one of the older actions to buid from (if one could be found for a decent price). That said, A friend that I shoot with every Sunday has a Cooper in 6BR that I absolutely drool over. It shoots .2s like nobodies business and the wood, well, the wood is something to behold. It would be a tough choice for me, but I would likely go with the Cooper simply because of the grade of wood that they consider standard.
 
Well, IMO the Savage Model 12 BVSS looks like a toothache, the Sako looks like a rifle should, and the Cooper is light, trim, and looks like a custom varminter is supposed to look.

The Savage will shoot very well, the Sako will shoot well with class, and the Cooper will shoot well and impress your friends at the same time.

Your call.
 
You'll find the Sako and Cooper are both in totally different worlds than the Savage. But they should be for the price difference. Of the two, I'm a big fan of the Sako rifles.
 
I've not been impressed with the last 3 Sako 85's I've bought. Only 2 of the 3 have met the accuracy guarantee and the ones that did just barely made it. My Browning X-Bolts and 700's are generally more accurate. One got sent back because of uneven finish on the barrel. All 3 eject shells up hitting the bottom of the scopes enough to wear the finish of the scopes(and I'm using Sako's own Optilock rings). A 3 lug bolt with a standing ejector means the ejector is at 6o'clock pushing the case straight up rather than to the side. Look at most rifles with fixed ejectors. They are around 4o'clock to eject at more of an angle.

They are extremely well built but I'm not crazy about the ejection or accuracy of my three. Mine have been 85 hunter and 2 85 classics.

A lot of Sako's reputation for accuracy is because of their gaurantee and their perceived quality because of the higher price. I wonder how many folks lauding the Sako's have owned a few?....
 
Mine shoots sub MOA, but thats all i ask for it. I haven't had any of those problems. But i guess i got a good one.
 
Aarond- Yeah i'm on the younger end of the spectrum for this forum. I'm 24 and all of my friends buy these rem 700's and Savage 110s in black plastic. :barf: I know things have changed a lot in 30 years and i'm not liking much of the new production rifles.

Scorch-i believe the 12 BVSS being called a toothache is an understatement. But i know they are accurate.

"A lot of Sako's reputation for accuracy is because of their gaurantee and their perceived quality because of the higher price. I wonder how many folks lauding the Sako's have owned a few?...."
My Dad has a Sako in .25-06 and mine is .30-06 both are prime examples of why i would buy another one.
 
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