New Revolver Acquisition - SP101

Kevinch

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Have you ever layed your eyes on a used gun, knew that the ticketed price was average retail, had promised yourself you wouldn't buy anything unless you found a good bargain but just plain wanted to buy something & couldn't getaway from that one?

Today was the first time since the mid - 90's that our large local gun show was back at the facility where it all started - a much larger, more comfortable building than the one used since they moved. The restrictions on what they are not allowed to display & sell is a whole story unto itself - but I decided to visit anyway. This show used to have 1500 tables & take a good 4 hours to get thru once. It wasn't that big this time but the restrictions are to be lifted after the next 2 shows (?), so we'll see.

I had a small shopping list of odds & ends, & also was on the lookout for a nice used S&W revolver in preferably .357, but possibly .38 Special if the price was right. My step-daughter wants to have a gun at her disposal for home defense & seems willing to allow me to teach her how to shoot & gun safety, so I wanted to add a 3" or 4" small to mid-sized S&W wheelgun to the battery for that purpose. My 6" 686 is a little too big.

But - I'm not in a hurry, I figured if I found something in the "good deal" to "absolute steal" range I would buy & if not - another day. About half way thru I came upon the table of the dealer who I give most of my business to. He had a 4" M19, a 4" Speed Six, & a 21/4" SP101. The Speed Six was showing a little wear but was still very servicable, the M19 was almost LNIB except for the downright poor red paint on the front ramp & the Pachmyar Presentation grips, & the SP101 was like brand new. I thought the prices were high; even though I know he'll drop a little the M19 was marked at $299 & the SP101 at $290; I believe the Speed Six was $250. I figured something would come up somewhere else.

But ...it didn't. I saw a 3" SP101 that someone had globbed yellow paint on both the front ramp & ears of the rear notch - a thick, poor job - the dealer said he could let it go for $279. Another used 21/4" was going for $350 :eek: ! The S&W selection was no better; cheap guns could be had but they looked cheap. One guy had a 4" Model 66 he was asking $360 for - beacuse it had what he described as the great grips - Pachmyar rubber/wood combination. The whole show seemed to be like that :(

I found myself circling back to "my" dealer's table, & I was talking to him about a new Taurus (which he didn't have there but carries at the store), & I kept looking at the little Ruger. I finally had him pull it out of the case & checked it out. As tight as an anvil, some powder residue here & there but that was it. But he knows me; he said "Kevin, I have too much in it to knock anything off". I put it back, thought about the M19 which I had him to about $280 on but the red paint on the sight turned me off & the Pach grips made the gun feel huge - too big for my daughter.

To acommodate my thinking that I couldn't pay him asking price on anything he knocked $5 off the Ruger & I bought it for $285:

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I know that I payed the average retail for it, but other than that know little about them. Anything I shoud know? As mentioned, the gun is tight - & the trigger pull feels heavy. Will it smooth our with use? Also, the checkering on the hammer feels awfully sharp - anyone one else feel the same or is it me? Are the stock grips well designed, or are replacements a wise idea?

On yes - was I "not smart" to pay $285 for this one?

Thanks all!
 
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I have a 3" version in 9mm (naturally) and it's hammer spur was also sharp, but files and stones took care of it pretty quick. :D

The best thing you can do for the trigger pull, IMO, is buy the Wolff spring kit from Brownells and install it. Start with the lightest spring and test for reliable ignition.

I like the factory grips, as they fit me well, but... YMMV.
 
I just bought the 3" version, took the trigger out to polish down the edges and cut some coils off hammer spring to lighten pull. Works great now with a smooth trigger.
Bought the SP101 new on sale for $315.
 
Hogue puts out a nice grip, in either rubber or wood, to fill up that empty space behind the trigger guard. Keeps the knuckle knocking down. Fills the hand better too.
 
The sp101 is one of those guns Ive been wanting for some time but never seem to get around to buying. As far as price goes most dealers know what thier guns are worth and unless you got a friend who owns a gun shop you will more than likley pay fair market value or more for it. I shop at the same gun stores becouse I know the only mark the guns up about 10% and they have a good selection.$300 for a gun that will last a life time is not that bad of a deal,I would have bought it,might have gotten that m19 also. :)
 
For the purposes stated, you probably did OK paying $285 for the SP-101. I recently traded a very clean 2" (still have a 3") to a trusted dealer friend. He gave gave me $250 on it towards another toy that I wanted more and promptly put the SP-101 in display case at $295. Comment about "built like a tank" is right on. Had a little trigger work done on my 3" shortly after purchase and it has since served as a great "go to" gun when teaching most beginners.

Several of them have subsequently got Texas CHL and, like you, bought some good SP-101s at gun shows in the price ranges stated. I've had feedback tho (from two in the last month that I can think of) that they love their SP-101s and would hate to part with them, but they are now in the market for something lighter to "carry".
 
You got a fair price and more inportantly you fostered a relashionship with a dealer that you continue to deal with and that is worth paying for.
 
Thanks for commenting!

1goodshot: funny you should mention getting both, I thought about it briefly. But - I'm trying to convince my wife that we can afford a new Harley because we are able to put $XXX away per month - & I'll be running short on X's if I keep buying guns ;)

Hey riddle: see note to 1goodshot above - don't post anymore custom gun pics.... :mad: ;)

greybeard: your dealer friend did you right. He would have a rough time staying in business at a 15% profit overall. I figure my dealer made about 21% or so on me & I have no problem with that. I've bought a lot on new guns off him where he had to meet or beat a 10% or so profit to get my sale.

ajacobs: I agree. I told him after his son did the background check, took the money, etc.; "Bill, you drive a hard bargain." His response: "No Kevin, you do - you beat me down $5 & I'll loose sleep over that tonight." Somehow I don't think he was serious... ;)

harbinger, ar & 9x19: thanks for the tips on making it a little more user friendly. Since it will be my daughter & wife shooting the little rocket, I'll probably stay with some type of rubber/nylon grip & load it with .38 +P for HD duty, but have them shoot .38 Special for practice.
 
For my experience here in western Nevada a very clean SP 101 (2 1/4" barrel, .357) from a dealer for the price you stated would be a rather good deal. From reading this forum (and others) I gather prices around here are high but NIB guns like this are going from $400 to near list (ca. $480). A couple of months ago I passed on a gun of simialr condition to the one you got that, even with a favorable discount, would have cost me $300. I'm still kicking myself for letting this one get away. So yes, for my part fo the country, I think you got a good deal.

I have two Ruger revolvers and both have (had) sharp edges on the hammers. I relieved both with some light filing.

Trigger pull is supposed to lighten with use. I have not yet discovered this for myself becuase I have not had either gun long enough but this is certainly claimed by everyone that has shot these guns for a while. There are several threads about this and replacing the mainspring on the Ruger Forum (& I think a few on this group too).

Many state that .357 rounds out of SP101s are a bit much to handle and many say they are OK. This difference is probably due to type of load, personal preference, personal experience, hand size, body weight, phases of the moon, etc. If .357 loads are a bit much out of this gun, they will be a bit much out of any gun that size and weight. You can shot .38s and still have a gun that will probably retain a more value than if it was a .38.

I envy you your purchase.

GDB:)
 
I believe you got a good deal on your SP101. I bought a used 2 1/4" SP101 DA-only for $300 in '94.

I really like the Hogue grip my pistol has---it makes the magnum rounds a lot easier to control.
 
I don't own, but have operated several sp101's. "Built like a tank" doesn't do justice to this gun. It isn't pleasant in the shortest barrels with full-house .357 loads, but will put the bullet where you aim. For the heavier loads, a set of Hogues or Pachmeyrs will do wonders for comfort
 
We recently acquired a LNIB SP101, .357, factory grips for $290 at the local gun show. That is the ONLY piece Mrs Aggie has owned that she actually carries. We both run .38s through it & leave the mags to the "big boys". Wonderful li'l gun!

Ya done good, pal!

Be safe and God bless ya'll.................
 
If you want to replace the side panels on your grips, Lett company has all different kinds to choose from. I got some zebrawood. Besides looking cool, they have a slight swell, making the grip a little thicker......
 
Got a SP101 off this board recently for $250 and thought it was a very fair price. As an added bonus the fellow had a pair of Houge grips in the box.

Took gun out to range Sunday and tore the skin off my trigger finger on the sharp trigger and frame when shooting 125gr handloads.

I just put on the Houge grip and it seem like it will be easier to control. I also broke the sharp edges around the trigger with my dremel. Will probably replace springs also.
 
Hey Kev...

I just bought a new SP101 (2 1/4"). I paid about $350 for it new.

Do a search using SP101 as your search terms and you'll find some interesting stuff on the gun in here.

Hope everything's going OK where you're at...

Bob
 
Thanks for all the comments & advice friends!

As an update, I found some time on a rainy afternoon a few weekends ago to take my 20 year old step daughter out back behind my home & have her shoot a handgun. We started off with my old Ruger Single-Six, shooting at a paper plate stapled to a 2x4 proped up against a tree. After about 4 cylinder loads of .22LR to learn about sight alignment, she shot 2 or 3 cylinders of .38 Special from the SP101 in SA and did well for her first outing.

Not appearing to be all that recoil sensitive, I loaded (2) 125g .357MAG hollow points & had her fire those off. She sorta smiled & said, "hey - these ones hurt a little!".

My wife is out of town for the next few days, coming home Sunday evening. I hope to find some time to do another father/step-daughter shoot during that time - & take the opportunity to bond just a little tighter. We really don't do a whole lot together, even though she doesn't mind going out with my wife & I. So many her age have no desire to even been seen with parents, so I feel very blessed!

Concerning the gun, I am considering sending it out to a reputable smith to have some trigger work done. I can do the springs myself, & polish the mainspring rod but the actual trigger stoning I think I leave to someone who has been there before (especially considering this is a home-defense gun for my wife & daughter).

There aren't a whole lot of people that advertise work on these little guns - at least on the internet. I'm leaning towards Teddy Jacobson. Although he is banned from most any message board he has visited, I have come across no one who questions the quality of his work.

Any other suggestions?
 
Don't know about Teddy Jacobsen. I had my SP101 'smithed by a local gunsmith here in the northern Central Valley of California, a guy by the name of Kevin Jones. He works out of a gun shop in Yuba City and can be reached at 530-673-4100. His email is 7x57@aol.com

I had him remove the gun's SA sear, rendering the gun DAO. I also had him do a "duty tune" on the gun, meaning that he smoothed off the burrs and chunks, but did not lighten the springs. I will be using this gun for CCW, so I didn't want the springs lightened. I also had Kevin remove the hammer spur. Kevin did a very nice bevel on the hammer where he removed the spur. It looks really nice and the job Kevin did was top-notch. The whole schmear cost me $100 and it was worth every penny.

Bob
 
Kevinch

Please don't post pics like that on this forum as you know how it affects me!:( Now I want an SP101! :confused:
 
I'd say you got a fair deal. I paid $279 for mine with 3" barrel, used. Original grips are fine, I put Pachmayr grips on mine for a while till my dealer tempted me with Crimson Trace Lasergrips.

Those turn the Ruger into an awesome defense weapon.

I thought the trigger on mine was OK until a gunshop owner showed me his SP101 that had been "tuned". So mine will be making a trip to a gunsmith soon.

I use mine mostly for teaching but carry it occasionally.

Bruce Foreman
 
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