jaguarxk120
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Does any mfgr. make a belt fed shotgun?? Just have a side mounted box magizine with 50 rounds in it 
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New Product Idea, Doubling Shotgun Mag Capacity
- Thread starter talonosi
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Problem with hunting between slugs and shot is that most upland bird seasons are long over by the time big game season starts so you may end up in jail/fines/guns and vehicle confiscated...Also, depending on state there is a limit to the number of shells you can have in your shotgun while game hunting--most are 5 and the Federal Migratory Bird limit is 2+1 and most states follow that for upland birds as well...
As indicated there is box magazines available for guns that keeps the centre of gravity "between the hands" where it's supposed to be and if you want more rounds then that, there is always the drum magazine(s) from IIRC 6 to 25 shells...
As indicated in the photo, a multi tube apparatus is available and from what I've read they are bloody barrel heavy and a true bitch to use...there is also a different manufacturer's model called XRail about to be released...Maybe the extra weight forward would help with muzzle climb and next shot recovery in a firefight but having to hold that "at ready" would be Hell...Try taping two 5 round boxed to the end on your barrel and holding that on target for any length of time...
I could see a viable resource for LEO/military for your product especially for the <$150 price tag...bean or rubber bullet, tear gas or pepper spray or Mace, buckshot or slug, flare or smoke or all of the above...
jaguarxk120 -- The US Military for the Dept. of Justice or Corrections experimented with a belt fed machine gun during--or just prior to--WW2 primarily for prison use--walls & guard towers, but dropped it after awhile for IIRC too slow of a cyclic rate, extremely innaccurate and of course very limited range...Looked somewhat like a Lewis Gun without the drum on top and was tripod mounted...
They also tried a Gatling Gun version and with the same results, too short range, too wide spread a pattern, can't really be aimed...Inside a building or corridor defense it would be devastating...
8 pellets per round, 150 rd per minute rate of fire = 1,200 unaimed pellets in the air per minute...M1928 Thompson sub machine gun, 700 RPM of fairly accurate fire to 100 yds, or a Lewis Gun @ 550 RPM or either Brownings M1917A1 (water cooled) 450-600 RPM or the M1919A4 (air cooled) 400-500 RPM of quite accurate fire to 2,000 yds...
As indicated there is box magazines available for guns that keeps the centre of gravity "between the hands" where it's supposed to be and if you want more rounds then that, there is always the drum magazine(s) from IIRC 6 to 25 shells...
As indicated in the photo, a multi tube apparatus is available and from what I've read they are bloody barrel heavy and a true bitch to use...there is also a different manufacturer's model called XRail about to be released...Maybe the extra weight forward would help with muzzle climb and next shot recovery in a firefight but having to hold that "at ready" would be Hell...Try taping two 5 round boxed to the end on your barrel and holding that on target for any length of time...
I could see a viable resource for LEO/military for your product especially for the <$150 price tag...bean or rubber bullet, tear gas or pepper spray or Mace, buckshot or slug, flare or smoke or all of the above...
jaguarxk120 -- The US Military for the Dept. of Justice or Corrections experimented with a belt fed machine gun during--or just prior to--WW2 primarily for prison use--walls & guard towers, but dropped it after awhile for IIRC too slow of a cyclic rate, extremely innaccurate and of course very limited range...Looked somewhat like a Lewis Gun without the drum on top and was tripod mounted...
They also tried a Gatling Gun version and with the same results, too short range, too wide spread a pattern, can't really be aimed...Inside a building or corridor defense it would be devastating...
8 pellets per round, 150 rd per minute rate of fire = 1,200 unaimed pellets in the air per minute...M1928 Thompson sub machine gun, 700 RPM of fairly accurate fire to 100 yds, or a Lewis Gun @ 550 RPM or either Brownings M1917A1 (water cooled) 450-600 RPM or the M1919A4 (air cooled) 400-500 RPM of quite accurate fire to 2,000 yds...
Willie Lowman
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Sounds like a solution looking for a problem to me.
Yes. Don't know if he is going to put into production. Still have to work out some reliability issues.Does any mfgr. make a belt fed shotgun??
YouTube: Belt Fed 12 gauge
I have it on good report that Aberdeen Proving Grounds in the 50s and 60s had a project of two full auto, belt fed 12 gauges coaxially mounted to a 9mm subgun loaded with tracers only. The buzzgun used was an old Sten because they had a couple.
Ambush buster for APCs and trucks. Damage with 00 was tremendous, and they did try mix loading with alternating buck and slugs. One early sabot slug
was developed for better armor piercing capabilities.
Then they developed the Claymore mine and reactive armor and decided those was better options.
However, on a shoulder weapon, belt feed can be tricky, as anyone who ever tried to keep an M60 firing while being moved can relate.
And as Mr Awerback says, no shotgun magazine is ever big enough.
Best to learn how to reload fast and effectively.
When you can run the gun, you can be amazingly effectively with a single shot...
Ambush buster for APCs and trucks. Damage with 00 was tremendous, and they did try mix loading with alternating buck and slugs. One early sabot slug
was developed for better armor piercing capabilities.
Then they developed the Claymore mine and reactive armor and decided those was better options.
However, on a shoulder weapon, belt feed can be tricky, as anyone who ever tried to keep an M60 firing while being moved can relate.
And as Mr Awerback says, no shotgun magazine is ever big enough.
Best to learn how to reload fast and effectively.
When you can run the gun, you can be amazingly effectively with a single shot...
To evaluate an idea for a product it might help to look at the market success of similar products.
The Truvelo NeoStead has similar features: 1) twice the normal capacity (2x6+1) of a normal pump-action and 2) the ability to choose from which mag tube rounds shall be fed.
Market success? Uh, I read an article about it a few years ago but haven't seen it since. Though that is probably more due to gun laws and import regulations.
Personally, if I were to buy a shotgun and the price were not much higher than that of a Benelli Nova, I'd buy that NeoStead.
If your device offers twice the capacity without making the shotgun overly front heavy and four feet long, it could have market potential.
The Truvelo NeoStead has similar features: 1) twice the normal capacity (2x6+1) of a normal pump-action and 2) the ability to choose from which mag tube rounds shall be fed.
Market success? Uh, I read an article about it a few years ago but haven't seen it since. Though that is probably more due to gun laws and import regulations.
Personally, if I were to buy a shotgun and the price were not much higher than that of a Benelli Nova, I'd buy that NeoStead.
If your device offers twice the capacity without making the shotgun overly front heavy and four feet long, it could have market potential.