New NJ Gun Owner Questions

but don't be surprised if you get charged. I am not in agreement with any of this but at the same time, don't want to be a test case.
Click to expand...

I strongly suggest you contact the NJSP and ask them to clear up this confusion for you....
 
Sorry War_Elephant you are so wrong it's kind of laughable that you "work" in a gun shop.

As to the rest, one thing I've learned living in NJ is that the cops are the single most ignorant bunch of people to ask about guns in this state. VERY few actually know the law.
 
thats why im here to get clarification on the rules lol.... i figure nobody would know better then those who own the guns themselves within the state =) all be it perhaps not the best forum for such a discussion but oh well

appreciate it guys
 
the first thing anyone should do that wants to own guns while living in NJ is read the law... read it as it is literally written... then ask questions about what you dont understand...
 
I don't want to hijack the thread but as the OP also said he wanted to get a 9MM handgun, isn't NJ gthe state that disallows civilian possessing hollow point bullets? Must tb they only allow cops proper SD bullets. (insertsevere sarcasm smiley.) Not picking on LEO's BTW. Got too many of them as friends.
Paul B.
 
diamondd817 said:
Hollowpoints are legal to posses and use at the range and for SD in NJ.
Click to expand...
Not quite; to clarify this, they're legal for home defense, but not for carry outside the home. You may use them for target practice and for hunting (when otherwise legal), and you may transport them between your home and wherever you're doing those things, but it's illegal to possess them elsewhere.
 
Not quite; to clarify this, they're legal for home defense, but not for carry outside the home.
Click to expand...

Yes, you are correct. But, you have to realize a NJ carry permit is unatainable. So, to mention that they are illegal for carry outside the home is a moot point.
 
Last edited:
But, you have to realize a NJ carry permit is unatainable. So, to mention that they are illegal for carry outside the home is a mute [sic] point.
Click to expand...
I'm aware of of that, but others reading this may not be. In standard usage, SD refers to self-defense anywhere, in the home or out, while HD is used to refer specifically to defense inside one's home. It's not a trivial distinction -- see the sticky on "Duty to Retreat..." etc. at the top of the L&CR index page. And it's by no means a moot point that is illegal to possess them elsewhere than the specified locations or travel routes, so that even having them in your car while you detour to go to the supermarket would be grounds for arrest.
 
I really don't appreciate the personal attacks I have gotten here. I relayed what the NEW JERSEY STATE POLICE are telling gunshops and I am getting nasty messages and arguments. I AM NOT THE PERSON saying this, I am relaying what the NJSP has told us. I am done, will not discuss this further. Do what you want. I really don't care at this point.
 
I really don't appreciate the personal attacks I have gotten here. I relayed what the NEW JERSEY STATE POLICE are telling gunshops and I am getting nasty messages and arguments. I AM NOT THE PERSON saying this, I am relaying what the NJSP has told us. I am done, will not discuss this further. Do what you want. I really don't care at this point.
Click to expand...

relaying inaccurate information is just as bad as creating it to begin with.. it all aids in confusing something that is relatively simple to understand....

kind of surprised by your response... working in the industry I would think that you would want to reach out to the SP and get the correct info..

I provided you with the literal law in an attempt to aid you in understanding it... not in an attempt to mock you..
 
He was probably referring to my post, which was a bit out of line. I just get frustrated with the bad information a lot of gun dealers pass out in this state.
 
He was probably referring to my post, which was a bit out of line. I just get frustrated with the bad information a lot of gun dealers pass out in this state.
Click to expand...

the SAD thing is that a large chunk of the bad info in our state is given to people AT gun shops... I have heard people get told HP ammo is illegal... gun must be in a locked case when transported... this gun or that gun is illegal... its pretty bad considering you are working in the industry..
 
NJgunowner said:
He was probably referring to my post, which was a bit out of line.
Click to expand...
No, he was referring to those posters who pointed out that he was incorrect in saying that the detachable vertical foregrip shown on one of the two ARs in the photographs in this thread was a prohibited (i.e. "evil") feature.

He was incorrect. Or, perhaps more precisely, the information was incorrect. The text of the law has been quoted in this thread. Similar to the late, unlamented Federal AWB, the definition of "assault weapon" starts off as a rifle with a detachable magazine, and then adds two or more items from a specific list of five items. One item off that list is A-okay ... two items creates an assault weapon. One item is a pistol grip that protrudes below the action, and that's a defining feature of an AR-15, so that's all you're allowed.

BUT ... the list of five items is specific, and it does NOT mention anything about vertical foregrips (detachable OR fixed).

And, FWIW, it also doesn't mention scopes.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top