For those not in the know, New Jersey (NJ) is a can issue state. For the most part, they do not issue.
Here are my questions:
(1) Has there ever been a legal battle brought by a civilian to get a concealed carry permit in NJ? And I'm talking about a plain, non-ex con civilian, non-ex military or police, not a security guard, etc. A regular 'Joe' if you will.
(2) What really would be required of someone to bring such a suit against the state? Honestly, if I wanted a CCL why should I need ANY reason to actually have one, rather than simply point to the 2nd Amendment? Granted, that's not likely to get me anywhere, but isn't the whole point that we shouldn't NEED a particular reason to be issued a CCL?
Having fought against NJ once for a first amendment case (versus a judge -- and won), I've been paying serious thought to making a go at the 2nd amendment -- I just don't want to end up in a dozen pratfalls that have befallen those before me. Somehow I don't think saying to a judge/court "give me a permit because the 2nd amendment says so" is going to work, in and of itself - even if that should be the proper understanding of it.
Thoughts? Suggestions?
Here are my questions:
(1) Has there ever been a legal battle brought by a civilian to get a concealed carry permit in NJ? And I'm talking about a plain, non-ex con civilian, non-ex military or police, not a security guard, etc. A regular 'Joe' if you will.
(2) What really would be required of someone to bring such a suit against the state? Honestly, if I wanted a CCL why should I need ANY reason to actually have one, rather than simply point to the 2nd Amendment? Granted, that's not likely to get me anywhere, but isn't the whole point that we shouldn't NEED a particular reason to be issued a CCL?
Having fought against NJ once for a first amendment case (versus a judge -- and won), I've been paying serious thought to making a go at the 2nd amendment -- I just don't want to end up in a dozen pratfalls that have befallen those before me. Somehow I don't think saying to a judge/court "give me a permit because the 2nd amendment says so" is going to work, in and of itself - even if that should be the proper understanding of it.
Thoughts? Suggestions?
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