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"New" Colt M1911A1 vs. Springfield Mil-Spec
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Brian Busch
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The 1991A1/New Series 80 has forged frame, slide and barrel.
Rocklobster
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Non-myth.Fact. Trigger pull is atrocious with firing-pin block. Don't need gunsmith,chump or other,to clean up Series 70 trigger pull,it's already fine.
I'll have to side with the little-or-no-difference crowd, where the S80 bits are concerned. I pulled them out because I didn't like the added complexity.
New Springfields, except for perhaps the Trophy Match, TRP and other high-end models, are built entirely in Brazil. They used to be fitted & finished in the U.S., but no more.
I saw a new Auto Ord, and didn't think it looked one bit better than the old West Hurley guns.
New Springfields, except for perhaps the Trophy Match, TRP and other high-end models, are built entirely in Brazil. They used to be fitted & finished in the U.S., but no more.
I saw a new Auto Ord, and didn't think it looked one bit better than the old West Hurley guns.
How does the Colt 1991 compare vis-a-vis the 1911? Are they essentially the same, and if so why didn't they just stick with the 1911 designation?
At this point I am still leaning to the Springfield, though for something as American as a 1911 I'd prefer to get one made here. $800+ for the new Colt retro 1911 is just too much though.
At this point I am still leaning to the Springfield, though for something as American as a 1911 I'd prefer to get one made here. $800+ for the new Colt retro 1911 is just too much though.
Alexis Machine
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They stopped calling them 1911s in, well, 1911! They are Government Models. When the 1911A1 was designated, it was commercially called the Government Model 1927. There is no difference between a 1991 and a Series 80. The Series 80 trigger on my XS is every bit as good as the one on my series 70, just cost more.
There's a lot of talk about "what if the internals failed" and "if you don't like the block remove it". But according to Kuhnhausen, series 80's lack a captive half cock notch on the hammer. In a series 70 gun, this device prevented the hammer from hitting from mishandling or breakage in the sear/disconnector. Even if the delicate sear tip broke, the half-cock is quite large and should catch what's left. That's the reason the 70 was safe enough.
If you remove the firing pin block safety without changing the hammer, you have a weapon far less safe than a 70. It's easy enough to fumble while raising or lowering the hammer. Sear bounce is also common enough that I'd want that protection.
If you remove the firing pin block safety without changing the hammer, you have a weapon far less safe than a 70. It's easy enough to fumble while raising or lowering the hammer. Sear bounce is also common enough that I'd want that protection.