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Metal Guy (you are not God!),

If the guns were returned it was not to them .

That was a reference to an earlier run-in with the police, one where the guns were taken while the wheels of justice ground slowly away. Naturally, those were not the guns modified to full-auto fire which were later used in the bank job.

Bart Noir
 
So you are actually Black Beard? Get a grip man! To err is human. It's still a lot easier than a Hoyt-Compton test. Now about those guns... Full auto in Cali? How the heck can that happen. Those guys must have been criminals!
 
Like I said I watched it happen live and followed it after quite a bit . The 44 minutes is a move about the bank robbery and far from 100% accurate .
 
You do not get to be Chief by being a good Cop. You get to be Chief by being a politician.
are you a law enforcement officer or have any kind of experience with this? are you speaking about all police chiefs whether this one/this community or whether a small town in north dakota and so-on?

I had 35 years in Law Enforcement when I retired. There might be a very small number of Chiefs somewhere who got their job by being a Good Cop. I've just never known one or met one. One of the best Cops I know, never worked for him but know him, was just passed over for a Chief's Job. He's a damned good Cop but a poor politician. He just couldn't kiss enough butts to get the job.

You know a Good Cop who's a Chief. Let me know I'd like to actually see such a thing.
 
Police Chiefs of any city jurisdiction are beholden to the CITY COUNSEL. The Chief can be replaced at any time if the Chief does not tow the line of the City Counsel. Police Chief is a political position and the chief generally has very little control if the City Counsel or City Manager decide to step in.

This is why I would NEVER work for a City PD.

Sheriff's on the other hand are elected officials and carry absolute power. County Counsels have no say on what the Sheriff must do, only budget controls.

POLICE: Write tickets (another tax levy on the working American), investigate vehicle collisions (not accidents because accidents can be prevented), and must meet ticket quota's in most jurisdictions. YES there are quotas. Officer must write tickets as they generate city revenue!

Deputy Sheriff's generally do not mess with taxing the public (writing tickets) How can anyone get job satisfaction out of writing tickets all day long and working traffic? Suck job! Deputies handle all the red flag type service calls and then some!

Police Chiefs are absolutely inconsistent when controlled by left wing and untrained City Cousel members who know nothing about law enforcement and those City Counsel members generally put Chiefs in place who match thier agenda.

UNINCORPORATED is the only way to live!
 
1997 Shoot Out

It is a minor detail but, a frame by frame look at the last shooter will show a red puff on the face of the bank robber as he tries to kill himself. He missed, with the bullet exiting his face as he tipped his head back. It was later found he was hit in the throat by police fire severing his spine.
Roy
 
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