New camo question?

we used camo netting combined with the local shrubbery and of course a little dirt/sand and the weapons fit in great. The normal spray paint works ok, but if the weapon wasn't completely free of oils or grease the paint woulnt stick and some of the guys used paint that didn't hold up to heat, so when their was a lot of sustained firing the paint eventually stared to peel, fleck, etc... Also some paints didn't like the gloves we were wearing (mechanix, flight gloves, etc.. and actually mad ethe weapons "slippery".
 
So if all weapons had to be the same, solid colour, what colour would you choose for them? I was thinking an OD colour, but maybe a little lighter. any suggestions?

Is the navy camo like a digital Urban camo? I think I may have seen them if they are.

Also, since the primary function of camoflage in urban enviroment is not so much to hide as to break up the shape, them why wouldn't standard desert camo or even faded woodland camo work in this role? How important is camoflage REALLY? I am not a soldier so if I am missing something please enlighten me without to much flameage.
 
So if all weapons had to be the same, solid colour, what colour would you choose for them? I was thinking an OD colour, but maybe a little lighter. any suggestions?
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I think they all ought to be a medium, digital gray color on parts that aren't easily hidden or swapped out (such as the receivers on AR style weapons, or the frames on m9s), and then the parts that CAN be easily replaced ought to be available in appropriate camo colors to match whatever uniform is being worn in theater; for example, in Iraq you'd wear (as a Marine) digital desert camo, so your rifle's stock, grip, and both halves of the forend would be in digi desert camo.

Is the navy camo like a digital Urban camo? I think I may have seen them if they are.
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Here's one of the older concepts: http://www.news.navy.mil/view_single.asp?id=22334

And one of the newer ones, which is much closer to what they've decided we're going to wear. Note that as a Chief (e7) her nametape and navytape are gold; this is true for personnel e7-o10. e6 and below will wear white or silver name and navytape.
http://www.news.navy.mil/view_single.asp?id=22065
 
It is worth mentioning that there are some contradictory objectives when it comes to uniforms. Aside from the obvious things like fit and function for the person wearing them, which are apparently sometimes overlooked or ignored, one of the functions of a uniform is to identify the wearer as a member of certain military body. This sometimes flies in the face of camouflage, at least on the surface, but the whole issue becomes very complicated rather quickly. At any rate, this is one reason the marines have held onto their distinctive cover.

On the subject of digital patterned camouflage, the army experimented with tanks painted in a digital pattern but nothing came of it, presumably because of the difficulty in painting, compared with the value in doing so.
 
The ACU worked better at night than the desert MCCUUs in Iraq, however during the day they didn't work too well, kind of stuck out.
 
One of the big problems the US and even Britain have is that so many nations have copied or bought their camoflage. This really was a problem when Iraqis were using British desert designs and telling the difference apart.

The marpat I seen has an awful lot of black in it, but its still better than woodland. I perfer the cadpat ar than the marpat desert I seen. The uniform should be treated so it should shine up like that.

The new navy uniform is a joke. It seems the excuse for this new uniform is that they are lazy. It be alot cheaper to put them in a single colour. It seems really awful if you happened to be washed overboard to be in blue digital camo. What they are going for now is wasting money better spent elsewhere so they are not left out. The vast majority of the airforce be best off adopting this too. You don't need camo uselessly.
 
at least the Army and marines new uniforms resemble uniforms. I just got out of the air force and their new uniform concepts (always evolving) look like urban camo "crap" from the malls. One iteration even had little air force "wings" all over them with teh USAF words as well.
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One feature of the MARPAT camo, which is copywrited by the Marine
Corps, is a little "eagle, globe and anchor" symbol incorporated into the camo.

I have a pair of ACU trousers, and a pair of MARPAT woodland trousers. In
Texas in the summer, the ACUs are okay. The MARPATs are way too hot.

Walter
 
For NV comparisons, using a PVS14
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I thought one of the main "advantages" of the digitized camo was its ability to disrupt the visual acuity of NVDs. Be that as it may, exactly who are we fighting in the current war that has such an incredible proliferation of NVDs as to make this a serious concern?

Or are there manufacturing economies I am not aware of?

I am skeptical as to how long the "one camo" Army will last; first place SF goes that's not vaguely desert and you'll see the special issue stuff come out the wazoo.:rolleyes:

But having said that, I'm actually thinking of getting a set of ACUs (I've been out a loooong time, no one is going to issue me anything) or a knock-off. Whatever the faults of the colors are, they look like they fit superbly here in the Upper Sonoran desert.
 
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