New Browning 1911/380

I have the little Browning 1911-22 and it's a nice gun and fun to plink with. Don't believe I'd want that frame in a .380.

I prefer the Colt Mustang for a small .380 above the other offerings I've seen.
 
In fact, Browning rep said that its particular 85% setup could not handle the pressure of 9mm Parabellum cartridge.

Does anybody have experience with the "Black Label" version of 1911-22? Is it fitted/finished better or just a dressed-up version with slightly better sights, flat MSH, skeletonized trigger, and an extended safety?

I believe the upcoming 380 version is a "Black Label" as well.
 
That size can't handle 9mm pressures.
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In fact, Browning rep said that its particular 85% setup could not handle the pressure of 9mm Parabellum cartridge.
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Thinking maybe it's design can't handle 9X19 pressure.

All that and a MSRP twice that of a Walther PK380, and $250 more than a Ruger LC380or Glock 42!

Let's see,
85% of the size of a 1911
Ammo 50% more than 9MM Luger
Larger than many CCW guns of the same caliber
A MSRP 60%-100% higher than other larger than pocket guns 380's
Guess they're right about less is more!
But it's cute, and feels good.:D
 
Brownings marketing department seems to think women can't handle a real 1911 in 9mm/.38super/45ACP, While lightweight blowback pistols tend to have more felt recoil than browning style lookups.
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It's not so much they "can't" handle the recoil
Many just don't want to, and many have a problem just holding a full sized gun

The majority of women buying guns only want something to carry, and not something better suited to target shooting
 
I'm with Cheapshooter. Like the Browning 1911-22, it's cute but extremely over-priced. I'm not saying that Browning is putting too much margin on it -- it may cost a lot more than other pistols to manufacture (although I doubt it) -- but the price is out of line for what you get. I would love to get one of the .380 versions, but there's no way I'd spend that kind of money for it.
 
While I paid nowhere near the retail price for the 1911-22 (I paid $412 plus shipping) and I am supposed to get a box of 555 rounds of Winchester cp 22 ammo (around $50-75 value), I still think the gun appears very cheaply built for the price. It just doesn't exude quality and durability like Glock 42.

But there is no doubt that it feels great in the hand. While the paper dimensions may be bigger than some 22/380 guns, it's very slim and svelt. My wife, in particular, thinks it feels and fits small hands fantastically with excellent reach to all the controls (trigger, safety, slide lock) without having to shift the grip one bit. I have no doubt she'd enjoy the low recoil of the locked breech 380 AND the very light weight (little fatigue holding it for a long time). And, frankly, *I* would enjoy it a lot too. There is just something about guns that are "lanky" (as opposed to a lot of "short and fat" mini guns like the 9mm Glocks) that feels fantastic to shoot AND carry (a prime example is the Browning Hi Power, which carries better than a lot of thicker but more compact guns and certainly shoots better for me).

I just hope that the build and fit quality of the 380 version is much better than that on the 22 version. Maybe it will be since it will have a steel frame and maybe the composite will be a bit thicker and more robust. But if it's not, the value just isn't there in my view. We'll see.
 
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