New 870 Express -- Jamming

How many who have had issues with the Express bothered to spend a few dollars more for high quality ammo? I am thinking not too many, since these folks place price as the ultimate priority, and buying those steel-head wally world promo loads fits their priority..........shooting a low price-point gun with the cheapest, crappiest ammo, and then wondering why they have issues is something I just shake my head and chuckle at.
 
Metal expanding into grooves isn't a fault of the ammo. It is a fault of the chamber having grooves...

Brent
 
shooting a low price-point gun with the cheapest, crappiest ammo, and then wondering why they have issues is something I just shake my head and chuckle at.
Well, I have to shake my head and wonder why any "Pump" can't handle any and all ammo.
This is not a semi-auto !! ..... :rolleyes:

I had an older 1100 that ate everything at the same loading. Most of the problems that have been brought to light, have little or nothing to do with the ammo. After reworking our latest 870 Express, the ejection problems were corrected. Even with the winter we have been having, it now performs well without any operational issues. ...... :)

Some of you can look at the comments posted as strickly bashing but most folks are posting "real" problems and concerns. Indeed, thay are valid. ... ;)

As I have posted before, I would recommend buying these Expresses but the buyer should be aware of the potential problems. His money, his call !! :D


Be Safe !!!
 
Some of the current production 870 Express exhibit a lack of pride and attention to detail. No one can deny that the majority of current production870 Express Grade shotguns will function out of the box. But, just like the "Golckites" who deny any problems, ever, there are "Ka-Booms" and there are some 870s that are jam-o-matics. I would like to get a Police Grade 870 and if I got an express I would be prepared to send it back to Remington to make it right. Don't understand the head in the sand attitude that ignores reality.
 
OK.....

Two 20ga brass brush/tightly wrapped-oiled '00' sessions w/ drill....
Two oiled '0000' sessions....
One silver polish '0000' session later....

Four boxes of the junky steel-base Winchester "SuperTarget" later...
3 harder-to-shuck/but still hand-shuckable shells,
while the the rest were "normal."
Good-to-go.

Note to myself: The once-fired steel stuff had such residual expansion that they would not go back into the chamber w/o thumb force. The once-fired AAs dropped right in.

The wonders of metallugy.....
 
Good job, mehavy. I am not too concerned with the mechnical aspects of the express and may even end up replacing a few parts down the road if I get one. Just how bad is the standard finish (not sure if it should be called bluing or not). It may be more of a problem in a wet weather state, which CA ususally is not, and just be something to deal with if and when I ever get to use it in a marshy area. For that matter, if I really hated the finish how much of a problem is it to have it stripped and refinished?

Earlier you mentioned the cordless drill. I finally got one just yesterday from my son and would love its first use to be polishing the chamber of a new express. (He is warning me that I still need to go slow and the women are still upset if they even hear the word gun or see me working on my ancient model 1900.
 
Actually, the rough`n ready matte finish (akin to parkerizing in look) was a plus for me as I was looking for a gun with guts/for rough times, not fine looks. (I have my grandfather's Model-12 for that). :)

I have a feeling that to properly prep such a gun as gthe Express for a classic blueing job, it would take more metal polishing than normal for guns with a smooth finish to start
 
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I think wet sanding starting with 100 or so grit advancing to 1,000 would result in a nice finish...

The problem with the express finish is that it will rust easier than a smooth blue job. The humidity has all the pits to collect in.

Brent
 
Re Express finishes, some Eastern Shore Goose Guides melt paraffin in with heat guns to rustproof theirs. Johnson's Paste wax and Turtle Wax also have their adherents.

The one Express here, an early 90s 20 gauge, does fine with any oil applied frequently.
 
Had a problem with an 870 Tactical jamming up on me last year, with less than two boxes of shells through it.

Gave it to a friend, as a project gun. We'll see if he gets it running.

Meanwhile, my 20 year old Express keeps chugging along.
 
Just called the wife's nephew back in Virginia. He has no complaints about his older Express but knows nothing about the newer ones. Paid about $250 for it 10 - 15 years ago. Gun laws back there are a lot different than Cal.
 
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