For me it’s really less where the gun was made and more is it really the best choice in that price range. With some nice offerings available from SA, Colt and a number of other folks I’m not sure it is. The reality is we’ll probably just have to wait and see who knows this may be the next must have 1911.
New 1911 From Palmetto State Armory
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Aguila Blanca
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Joe Pike said:
My apologies. I was looking at the photo posted by subhuman, assuming (incorrectly) that he had posted a photo of the pistol under discussion. I just looked at the PSA web site, and it does not have the tracery in the hammer loop.
What I did notice is that the logo on the right rear of the slide looks VERY similar to the Rock Island logo.
imashooter
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Does S.A.M. make it? I communicated with Armscor and they told me they provide no parts for the PSA 1911.
PSA would put all speculation to rest if their ad would deal with the specs and origin a little more than they currently have shared. Although I would like that info, if they produce a quality product it does not cause me any real problem. Many who have already condemned the pistol with little or no mind to fact will continue their blind paths no matter what factual data is presented. Maybe PSA feels withholding specs maintains the "mystery" over their product however it may hurt in the long run.
Not being informative about the pistol's origins is normal for most Brand sellers. There may be situations where they have to switch to a different source due to environmental disaster or major political turmoil.
By not saying they are free to do what is necessary without getting tangled in a public perception issue. For the most part 1911's need to be considered a commodity import unless it's known they are made in the USA. Looking across the market there are more imported models than those actually forged and machined here.
If you want to see some real attempts at covering up, just look into the source of AR receivers and parts. There are offshore sources for them, too, but it's even more smoke and mirrors getting to the actual name of the maker.
By not saying they are free to do what is necessary without getting tangled in a public perception issue. For the most part 1911's need to be considered a commodity import unless it's known they are made in the USA. Looking across the market there are more imported models than those actually forged and machined here.
If you want to see some real attempts at covering up, just look into the source of AR receivers and parts. There are offshore sources for them, too, but it's even more smoke and mirrors getting to the actual name of the maker.
Okay I wrote PSA about their 1911 and have received an answer. First, my email to them (without my name or email address):
This was their response:
I will just observe that he interpreted my question about MIM (metal injection molding) as Made in Mexico. At least some of the questions are now resolved.
imashooter
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Dylan D is using their website to answer your questions or am I missing something?
For about fifty or sixty dollars more you can get one of the new Colt Competition Pistols. I bought one in .45acp a couple of months ago and have been very pleased with this gun.
Of course PSA is more geared toward other aspects of the shooting industry.Aguila Blanca
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KyJim --
The reply you received from Palmetto State Armory is perhaps the worst, least informative response I have ever seen from any manufacturer. To put it in context, I have to go back more than 25 years.
In 1988 I bogut a new Jeep Cherokee. A couple of years later, my Jeep was having some work done in the shop and, while I waited, I wandered into the showroom to see what the new models looked like. (Same as the old ones -- the design didn't change at all until 1997.) Sales drone zeroed in on me. Even after I informed him that I was kicking tires, not buying, he persisted in trying to convince me that the new ones were MUUUUCH better than mine.
He lost me when, among the list of desirable features, he proudly proclaimed that the new ones even had owl tires. I had never heard of owl tires -- Jeep used Goodyears, and I knew Goodyear had a model called the eagle, so I figured maybe they had named another tire after a different bird.
It wasn't until I got home with a copy of the printed catalog that I realized ...
"owl" tires was an acronym. OWL ==> for Outline White Letter.
I refuse to believe that Palmetto State 1911s are made AND assembled by one man. Having toured multiple facilities where 1911s are manufactured and assembled, I can virtually guarantee that what he told you is simply flat-out impossible.
The reply you received from Palmetto State Armory is perhaps the worst, least informative response I have ever seen from any manufacturer. To put it in context, I have to go back more than 25 years.
In 1988 I bogut a new Jeep Cherokee. A couple of years later, my Jeep was having some work done in the shop and, while I waited, I wandered into the showroom to see what the new models looked like. (Same as the old ones -- the design didn't change at all until 1997.) Sales drone zeroed in on me. Even after I informed him that I was kicking tires, not buying, he persisted in trying to convince me that the new ones were MUUUUCH better than mine.
He lost me when, among the list of desirable features, he proudly proclaimed that the new ones even had owl tires. I had never heard of owl tires -- Jeep used Goodyears, and I knew Goodyear had a model called the eagle, so I figured maybe they had named another tire after a different bird.
It wasn't until I got home with a copy of the printed catalog that I realized ...
"owl" tires was an acronym. OWL ==> for Outline White Letter.
I refuse to believe that Palmetto State 1911s are made AND assembled by one man. Having toured multiple facilities where 1911s are manufactured and assembled, I can virtually guarantee that what he told you is simply flat-out impossible.
One possibility is that a manufacturer may build up a large number of completed products before they ever introduce it to the public. So, it’s possible that this “one guy” has been building these guns for several months before the actual release. Now, obviously if the gun is successful a one man show may not be sustainable, but when/if demand increase they can ramp up production.