Need opinions on building my custom Remington 700

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Airwolf3924

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Here is my current thinking on my Config:

Action: Remington 700
Barrel: 22" Threaded Heavy Barrel w/ 1/10 twist
Caliber: .308 Win
Trigger: Timney 510
Porting: MuzzleBrake
Finish: Blued
Bolt Knob: TacOps Bolt Knob
Stock: MDT Tac 21 w/ Magpul PRS
Color: Tan (30)
Bipod: Harris Bipod 9-13" Swivel
Scope: US Optics ST-10 w/Erek
Rings: Burris XTR Rings

If i have SniperCentral build it, it would cost $3,600.
Link for reference: http://www.snipercentral.com/remington-700-sniper-rifle-package/

My experience shooting is with my High Point 4595. I have never shot beyond 100 meters, but that isnt going to stop me from trying. Ive been reading dozens of threads these last 2 weeks, so i am aware of the challenge.

Ive also been watching Rex on youtube learning as much as i can.
Link for reference: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqymwlCbVwpMnSLrd-NAQJQ

So im at the crossroads of whether or not i should order the parts individually (cant find a 22" threaded barrel at a 1/10 twist). The websites ive seen havent been too helpful. Are there any you guys could recommend if i do decide to custom build myself?

Im sure custom building isnt impossible, but on a scale of 1 (sucking a lolipop) and 10 (rocket engineering); how difficult would it be? How long would it take for a complete noob to do it in your opinion?

And before the replies come in (it has has happened hehe), yes im determined to spend this amount of money on my first real rifle. I'd rather my rifle out preform me in the early days.

Cheers!
 
If you have a machine shop, all the tools / gauges and experience, you'll probably get the hang of it after bugering a few receivers and barrels.

As for the rifle linked:
We start with a factory barreled action and then mount that barreled action into the ordered stock.
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I'm not paying $1,000 for that, let alone $3k. Who even 'builds' these rifles?

There are some good builders out there and there are some good, even great off the shelf rifles available. I'd steer clear of the one linked.
 
For that kind of money I'd call GA Precision before I'd spend a dime on a Sniper Central build. However, before you drop $3K+ on a rifle go buy a Rem 700 SPS Tactical in .308 and shoot the barrel out first. That way you'll have a clue as to what you'll really want in a rifle, and what you can do with said rifle. With your amount of experience with rifles you aren't able to discern practical from tacticool, as you don't really understand what you like in a rifle for features.

So if you buy that rifle you can start acquiring the rest of the pieces while your learning to shoot it to its and your full potential. When you've maxed out your potential with that rifle you can send your rifle off to be rebuilt. There are a ton of good M700 smiths out there that can build you the rifle you want for less than what you're considering spending, and the good part is you'll know exactly what you want by then.

I think your bi-pod is the wrong one as 9-13" is not as good as 6-9" for prone and bench shooting, it's just too tall to be comfortable behind for long periods in the prone position. Your optics are top notch, but do you truly understand how to use them. Something a little more simple might speed up your learning curve, and do you have access to a range that'll let you use that optic to its full potential. I think there are better stocks out there than the MagPul, I'd be looking at McMillan or Manners first.
 
Truth is most rifles are more accurate than the shooter. I would buy the 700P, SPS Tactical or Long Range and a decent scope and go from there.
 
It would be about $700 to have a match barrel chambered, your action tru'd, to have installed, to install the muzzle brake and the bolt knob installed. I would have a gunsmith do those.

I would also look at a Savage. It's accuracy potential is higher and it is more DIY friendly.

Last, use TPS rings and bases. I'm not sure that XTR rings are an issue, but I know TPS is top shelf at a good price. Warne is another good mid priced ring & base.
 
I'm no expert, but if you want it done right, I'd strongly suggest having a good gunsmith put it together. For one thing, they know what they're doing. For another, they'll be able to steer you towards components that'll work best for your application and budget (It's not always the sexiest, most expensive, or most "tactical"). Since this is your first "target" rifle, that advice would likely be very valuable.

Also as I understand it, if you don't personally buy and receive the action yourself, you'll pay a pretty good tax on the entire rifle (11% AFAIK), even if it was a custom build. If you buy the components (or at least the action) yourself, then have a gunsmith assemble it, you save money by avoiding most of the tax. And if you can find a good local 'smith, you save additional money in shipping costs. Finally, check out PTG action combos - oversized PTG bolt, trued and ready to drop in, so there's some additional cost savings there.

This is the route I'm going with my Rem700 build - bought a PTG action, and am having a local (but excellent) builder build the rifle. He's already got the other goodies (match barrel, McMillan stock, bottom metal, trigger, rings) and will charge me his cost, plus $500 to chamber & install the barrel, and bed the action. With a cerakoted action/barrel and threaded barrel, it'll come in at $3k (plus scope). Just a good solid LR build built by a top F-class rifle builder. I expect it to be an excellent shooter.

Bottom line: I'm all for building a good rifle and saving money, but the final product isn't just a bunch of components. How they're assembled will make the difference between a $3k rifle that'll shoot like it ought to, and a $3k rifle that looks cool, but shoots like a pawn shop rifle. So IMO, the best balance is to buy the action yourself, then give the tax money you saved to a good local rifle builder. And discuss your application & budget with them and ask for their feedback. IMO, your chances of getting a good shooter are a lot higher than if you were to attempt to doing the 'smithing yourself.
 
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thx for all the replys. I'll keep the tax comments in mind. Ive tried to look for good gunsmiths in my area (southern Indiana) and cant seem to find anything. Any suggestions on where to look on the web to gun smiths other than google?
 
If you're going to sink that much coin in it, why not get a Stiller/defiant/Surgeon/Bighorn or similar action instead of a 700. As someone above said if you want a 700 just buy a plain janes ADL and shoot the barrel out, then build off that.
 
I agree with taylorce1.

Factory rifles are very commonly sub-MOA, sometimes a lot sub-MOA.
By the time you wear out the factory barrel, you will have a lot better idea what you need and want.

You can DIY a pretty good Savage, but truing up and accurizing a Remington takes that machine shop somebody mentioned.
 
Winchester 70 actions for .308 Win match rifles proved to produce better accuracy that Remington round ones of any numeric designation in the .308's heyday in match rifle competition; nothing's changed. They're near 3 times stiffer and the flat surfaces resist twisting from barrel torque much better than Remington ones. Test groups smaller than current benchrest records have been shot with them.
 
someone just put up a classified for a .308 700 for 475$. I would start there, get a decent optic, shoot it a bunch, then start thinking about stocks and barrels after gauging and figuring out what you like. I wouldn't drop 3k on a rifle and then start shooting it to see if it's how I like it or not. start with the rifle, change as needed. nothing needs to be done all at once. after a nice optic, you'll prob get a stock and bi-pod, then a nice barrel. that's all it takes for a great rifle.... if you find that after all that, you need a trigger, bolt blueprint and trued, tactical this and that, then go for.
 
taylorce1 said:
...before you drop $3K+ on a rifle go buy a Rem 700 SPS Tactical in .308 and shoot the barrel out first. That way you'll have a clue as to what you'll really want in a rifle, and what you can do with said rifle. With your amount of experience with rifles you aren't able to discern practical from tacticool, as you don't really understand what you like in a rifle for features.
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This.

Or a Savage Model 10 FCP-SR.
 
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Since posters offered plugs for the Rem 700 SPS Tactical and Savage Model 10, I'll make a one for the Tikka T3. I've been very impressed with mine. I needed a new keyring fob, so I put my Tikka CTR to good use today. ;)

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100 yards. Front bipod, rear bag. Factory stock rifle shooting .260 Remington reloads (140gr SMK and H4350).
 
I'm a shooter my name is jason I'm building two LR rifles right now a Remington 700300 win mag with a bell and Carlson fiberglass stock bedded to the action with built in aluminum blocks and pillars I Pu a 20 MOA scope rail and a Bushnell elite 6500 4.5-30X50 scope on it rail rings scope where 1600 bedding 20 bucks the stock is worth 600 but it came with the 800 dollar Remington 700 the barrel conture is around a number 7 but it's a PSS the gun would be a 700 police super sniper but they put a different stock on it and called it a long range 26 inch barrel front and rear bi pods bedded rail that's good for now
My other is a 5R Mil Spec 308 10th anniversary edition green with webbing 900 dollar h.s . persisicion stock fiberglass Styrofoam and kevlar military served for 10 years guns 1200 24 inch stainless steel PSS contour for combat but not a police they only come in 26 inch scope is a Bushnell elite 4200 6-24X50 tactical pretty nice glass 1 100 dollars with mounts bedded action to stock rail to action two bi pods getting a 10 round mag. The US military spent 50 million dollars developing a bullet and barrel for my gun one of only a couple to stay supersonic past 1000 yards because of all the manpower they used so I can have a solid gun till I die !!! I read the earlier comments and I agree you should build a savage you don't need a gunsmith to change a barrel there's no head spacing to do just a wrench plus you can choose three of the top stock makers in the world for pennies on the dollar and out of the box you will have a dam time finding a more accurate gun and you will have so money to buy a scope like me I have 18 of them it comes natural with 27 guns you could have 12 different calibers just by buying the barrels half hour latter you got a new gun no charges 650 from a gunsmith stop take your time read up on the savage and good luck
 
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Mr. Borland, Several people have told me that tikka's are shooters. Nice rifle and good shooting.
 
The US military spent 50 million dollars developing a bullet and barrel for my gun one of only a couple to stay supersonic past 1000 yards because of all the manpower they used so I can have a solid gun till I die !!!
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What a waste of everything. People have been shooting 30 caliber bullets that stay well supersonic past 1000 yards since the late 1950's. Some from factory rifles and others from custom match rifles. All with ordinary handloads without anything special.

What's so special about "your" gun that took that much R & D to make it happen?
 
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+1. :rolleyes:

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Mr. Borland, Several people have told me that tikka's are shooters. Nice rifle and good shooting.
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I was told the same, and haven't been disappointed.

I mentioned the Tikka here because there's really no need ("want" is a different matter) to spend $3k to get good mid-range accuracy (especially true, IMO, if one doesn't reload their own ammo). A Tikka (or any accurate factory rifle with good loads) is plenty good out to 500-600 yards.

The only reason I'm having my Rem700 built is to shoot well beyond 500 yards at tactical precision competitions. If it weren't for that, I'd just stick with a Tikka (or any other accurate factory rifle), at a fraction of the cost, and learn to reload good ammo.
 
Battlefield tested on and off off the field between 200 and 500 yards this gun groups at .710 check it out
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10th anniversary 5R Mil Spec 308 h.s . persisicion fiberglass and kevlar allunimum pillar and bedded stock only one difference from the M24 same barrel as M40 #7 contour barrel this is two inches short of a PSS contour but they only come in 26 inch
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