Need help finding a bow maker....

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A couple years back I found a website of a certain bow manufacturer which I cannot remember the name of, and which I cannot seem to locate anywhere by keywords and searching forums & such. Maybe they went out of business, but maybe not.

Anyway, it was a really unique design of a bow - far far shorter axle to axle than most bows, but with a much longer draw length than would look like it would be capable of. It basically looked like a tiny small child's bow, but which pulled back to full adult draw length, and otherwise works like any other bow. At full draw, it looks like a diamond stretched left to right - the riser was short, IIRC, and the limbs angled sharply back at 45 degrees or more before the draw even.

Anyone know which bow I'm talking about? Thanks for your help.
 
Sorry to keep replying to myself, but is anyone else besides me intrigued with this bow? Read the pages there on Specifications, Design History, and the Testimonials (some of which are actual photocopies of customer's comments on the warranty registration cards), and tell me what you think.

Aside from the obvious huge advantage of size & weight savings (easier to shoot in a blind, easier to shoot sitting down, easier to shoot in and among tree branches, much lighter & easier to tote around long distances, etc.), they are purported to be extremely accurate, as well as quiet, smooth, improved letoff % (85%), and "recoil-less". Drawback is that very few standard accessories fit it without modification - you need sights made for it, a peep made just for it, etc. OK, you can use standard arrows though, thankfully.
 
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hee, hee....didn't think of that. Nope, never shot one or even seen in person, but I have a phone message in to one of the few stocking retailers - one of whom happens to leave here in my state. Want to go handle them.
 
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Hey I talked to the guy today and I may go down Friday to handle them - the dealer is in a town that is only an hour and 15 minute drive from me. He says he's sold a lot of them, and that they shoot great. He says they're becoming more popular and made the statement that "on the West coast, these outsell Matthews by four to one, and on the East coast, they outsell Matthews two to one." That's the allegation, anyhow...
 
Interesting. Angle of the fully drawn string seems so sharp that I wonder if you can use it without release. Can you check that if you do go? Just curious.
 
Yea, looks like you could only use a string loop. let us know what you think. I'm not in the market...yet. I have been shooting a MQ1 since 98 and it has not made me sad once. But I'm always curious about the better mouse trap.
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Hey guys...no, not yet...my assistant scheduled an appt for me Fri morning so couldn't go - I'm trying to get down there this Thurs instead - we'll see. I'll let you know. I'm leaning toward actually getting one if I try it out and it shoots nicely for me. I'm pumped - it's gonna be super cool if it performs as advertised. The main thing is bulk & weight savings - shooting around limbs from a tree, shooting while seated, inside a blind, etc.

I will check on shooting fingers - I doubt that that would work very well. I'd imagine you could shoot either with OR without loop though, with a release. I use a release unless I'm shooting a long bow or recurve. I put in for 4 traditional-bow-only controlled hunts for this fall here at the McAlester Army Ammunition Plant (AAP). If I get drawn for any of them, I will be practicing a lot with my long bow between now and then. But that's another subject as the Liberty is a compound, and those aren't allowed on the AAP hunts:

http://www.mcaapcontrolledhunts.com/
 
It will be good to get a perspective from somebody known to not have any vested interest.Shorter bows are obviously easier to deal with,especially on horseback.I hated getting on a horse in the dark with a bow strapped across your back.You turn it straight to keep it from hitting limbs and stuff on the sides and then it starts goosing the horse in the rump, which he will eventually remind you that he doesn't like. The complaint has always been that they are less forgiving and limit your choice of release.Look forward to your review.
 
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I was aiso intrigued.
Some one asked about finger shooting.
Owner suggest only loop with release.
Finger shooting voids warrenty.

Three thing I look for in a bow. 1.Weight,2. Length.3. Let-off
Liberty wins #1 hands down
#2 hands down
#3 5 percent ahead of most competition.
The only other points are noise and speed. Speed being the least important.
If it is a quiet as they say it is I will be in the market.
 
Three thing I look for in a bow. 1.Weight,2. Length.3. Let-off
Liberty wins #1 hands down
#2 hands down
#3 5 percent ahead of most competition.
The only other points are noise and speed. Speed being the least important.
If it is a quiet as they say it is I will be in the market.
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ThisiswhatI'msayin.......

The history blurb there says that the early models were loud, but now they're quiet with a few engineering changes - I don't think they claim to be quieter than other bows; but just the same as other good bows on noise.

http://www.libertyarchery.com/specifications.html

http://www.libertyarchery.com/DesignHistory.html

http://www.libertyarchery.com/Accessories.html

http://www.libertyarchery.com/UserComments.html
 
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Yeah, and besides, you only need one arrow 98% of the time, if you need any, that is.

I bumped this just to let y'all know (some have expressed interest) that this bow is the VERY next thing on my "to-buy" list, after getting my Sig GSR out of "hock" (layaway). I keep a running priority list on the puter of both things I want and necessity unusual expenses like car & home repairs, and this thing finally trickled its way to the top. So likely by the end of August, or mid-September at the latest I should have gotten one, tested it, and reported back here - just a heads up. I can't seem to get this bow out of my head, though (and thus off my list). :)

But PS, no, I still haven't even run down and handled one in person yet - have had a lot of turmoil in my life last 2 months.....
 
Update

Finally got down today to the little town of Carnegie, Oklahoma, where Chuck at "Bubba's Sporting Goods" (really) showed me the bow - he had 4 in stock. I was very impressed - it was all I thought it would be. You wouldn't believe how tiny this bow is. I put one on layaway - a 29.3" draw, 60-70 lb one, which has been decked out with sights, quiver mount, peep sight, string silencers, and whisker biscuit. His liability insurance company made him shut down his indoor range, so I couldn't shoot it, but I did draw it 5 or 6 times. The 85% letoff is incredible - letting it up is a trick - walking a tightrope between letting up enough to let it release, without slingshotting your arm forward. I hope to get it home in a week or so, and practice enough with it to use by this fall.

Question: What type of fletching holds up best to the whisker biscuit - blazer vanes or what? What about goose feather arrows - will the biscuit shred them or not? Thanks.

Chuck has a picture on his "trophy board" of a friend of his that got two does in about 5 minutes with a liberty bow. He's a real good ol boy - call him if you have any questions about these bows - he's pretty knowledgeable, and has been in the sporting goods business a long time, and is an avid bowhunter himself. His contact info is on the Liberty website under Dealer Locator.
 
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