Need a 30-30 load

I've owned Marlin lever guns for about 50 years now...and most will hold 3-4" at 100 yds, from rest. So I'd say that your gun is about average, accuracy wise. Marlins do respond to bedding improvements however. All of mine will hold about 2" now, for three shots from rest after some tinkering.

A scoped, stock lever gun that will throw its first three rounds from a cold barrel into an inch at 100 yds, is a very rare gun in my experience. Even with tweaking the bedding, loads, etc., it's an extremely rare gun.

I don't 'compete' with my Marlins nor with a cpl of Winchesters, so 10 shot groups are a waste of time and ammunition for me. It's the first three rounds that I'm interested in, and from a cold barrel at that...if they group consistently, I'm happy...and yes I do check with multiple 3-shot groups.

For some in depth instructions on how to tweak your Marlin, try the Marlin Owner's Forum. There are some very talented people over there who will help you. With a lever gun you have barrel bands, fore end screws, front sight ramps/hoods, tubular magazines plus magazine springs; all of which complicate the tweaking process.

All of the above affect barrel vibration and hence, grouping ability adversely. But, assuming you have a good crown on your barrel, and a decent chamber, it is possible to find a sweet spot in that mess, to produce good hunting accuracy. It just takes time and ammunition, and sometimes, a lot of both.

To check your Marlin's inherent accuracy try the following: remove the barrel bands, fore end and sight hood, as well as the magazine tube and spring. Then bench the gun from sandbag at 100 yds, scoped if possible. That alone (with all that wood and metal removed) revealed that my .30-30 Texan was capable of 1-1/4" 3-shot gps with my pet hand load. By tweaking each of those appendages, one at a time and reinstalling them sequentially, I isolated the offending parts, and ended up with a gun that'll shoot two inches....I was happy to say the least.

Personally, I've used 3031, with 170 grain bullets of Hornady or Sierra make in my guns with good success. 30 grains is the load, though you should check it with a good manual and work up if interested. BTW, I've always had better luck with 170 grain bullets than with 150's. 748 is another good powder.
 
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Tried the h4895 and 3031 again today in ladder tests. This rifle has to go. I can do better with the open sighted Winchester. Think the Remlin needs 170 grain bullets instead of 150s Best groups today were 3.5 inches. Most running closet to 5-7 inches. Tikka 260 and 7 mag printing under a dime. Maybe Varget???
 
Wendy,
Get rid of that gun! You are too good a shot to put up with shotgun patterns from a rifle.
A Ruger should shoot well. The Ruger American has a fine reputation for sub-MOA groups.
 
Shootist. I agree. Was out today to buy some core locks and couldn’t bring myself to do it I haven’t shot factory loads with exception of buying 260 match ammo for the brass. I like the Ruger American. Thinking 7-08
 
How are shooting the rifle off the rest.Try laying your hand on the bags and hold the forearm in your hand.I’ve had a couple Marlins that shot better that way. I don’t know if it’s the narrow forearm or because the bore is high.They want to twist around and recoil differently each shot and it affects your group
 
Wendy,
The 7-08 is a fine cartridge. With the proper bullets you can shoot groundhogs, coyotes, deer, elk and just about anything you like. It is a superb round for black bear and the recoil probably won't bother you at all. They do bark but it is manageable with muffs or plugs. Get as long a barrel as you can because the shorter barrels tend to breathe fire. It is fairly tolerant of medium and medium slow burning powders up through 150 grain bullets with WW748 one of my favorites. H414 is a better powder from 150 to 175 grain bullets. There are some who like RE 15, 17 and 19 and they will work with the appropriate bullet. You need a faster twist if you are going to be shooting the long and heavy bullets so if you have a choice as fast as you can get, up to 1:8 twist.
To contrast that the Ruger American comes with a 22" barrel and a 1:9.5 twist. It will stabilize the lighter and medium length and weight bullets but the heavy ones are not likely to stabilize. The American is still a good varmint to deer gun and although it is lighter tan 6.5 pounds the recoil is still manageable. There are no sights on it but it ships with a scope base mounted.
 
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