Need a 1911: best sub $1000 combat sight out of box?

gpjoe said:
I am not a KImber fan-boy, nor am I defensive about the pistol. I also have a couple of Colts, a Springfield, a traditional Sig (well, it's got an external extractor - but not the square-ish Sig slide), and a Dan Wesson Specialist.

The only point I am trying to make is that too many folks chime in about guns they have never actually owned or fired.

Sound like a bit of a fan boy to me. LOL Also sounds like you take the comments about Kimber personally as if the gun you use to defend your life somehow defines or reflects on you. :rolleyes:

The reality is that Kimber sells more 1911s than anyone else. The more guns you sell the more defects are going to show up, in pure number of defective gins, even if your defect rate is the same as other makers. So it makes sense that there would be more defective Kimbers in the marketplace than any other 1911. This however does not tell the hole Kimber story.

They started making very good guns which changed the production 1911 market but they grew to fast. They changed to an external extractor which never worked and had to switch back. They ramped up volume but did not ramp up the CS department or warranty department so when Cohen pumped all the metal into the market and they started to come back to the factory they did not have the man power to handle it quickly. Kimber's rep suffered greatly.

They have also had complete failures like the Solo. They are expensive considering they are mass produced MIM filled gun. When you look at the actual parts in the gun are similar to a Ruger which sells for have the price. Lots of MIM and cast parts with pretty finishes but if you compare the guts of a $1000 Kimber and a $1000 Dan Wesson they are two different animals.

This does not mean Kimber is not a good gun or that they will not run but being so emotionally tied to Kimber seems to have clouded your rational judgment. If you like Kimber keep buying them. People like me choose other guns. We have tons of choices in the 1911 marketplace there is not need to be defensive or attack others for their thoughts on the topic.

PS I don't need to own one to know this to be true. I don't have to own a Ferrari 458 Italia to know it is better than a Corvette. So you premise is an ad hominem attack which attempts to discredit the poster not the posters words. Also your question "Have you owned and shot all of them?" is nothing but a red herring.
 
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