Nedd help.. Please..

Thanks Mrs. Sbryce! That's great. I'm going to print it, slip it under his door, and if he chooses to bring it up again I'll wade back in. If not I guess I'll let him go.

I already gave him the link to Oleg's site. That's my standard opening gambit with the really illogical ones--"here, go here and read it all, then come back." But this guy just doesn't get it. Or maybe I don't get it. He's such a weasel about all his other rights but RKBA is just a silly game for psychos to play. When he got an alcohol ticket in another dorm he fought it for two weeks, claiming the warrant wasn't used properly, blah blah blah. Of course, that was a college RA on college property so the Constitution didn't apply. But how dare I ask that the federal government abide by the Constitution?
Oh, and taxes aren't high enough and I'd be unhappy if they went any lower because all the services would suffer. Thus speaketh Paul the all-knowing.
 
Gwinnydapooh,

If I remember correctly didn't Peter cut off the ear of the slave with a sword who was attempting to arrest Jesus to turn him over to the Romans? Then Jesus told Peter to put aside his sword as he proceeded to cure the slaves ear. Doesn't look like something to intrepret here. Looks to me that Jesus would be pro second amendment, and pro CCW if he allows his closest disciples to run around armed. It's Luke chapter 22 verses 49-51. Also in John chapter 18 verse 10.
 
Book of John, chapter 18 (King James Version, the same the author's of The Constitution had access to I believe)
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18:10
Then Simon Peter having a sword drew it, and smote the high priest's servant, and cut off his right ear. The servant's name was Malchus.

18:11
Then said Jesus unto Peter, Put up thy sword into the sheath: the cup which my Father hath given me, shall I not drink it? [/quote]



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Gwinny, glad to be of service. :)

Espresso, that's great! I've always focused on Jesus' undoing Peter's impulsive action 'cause Jesus knew it really was his time to go to the cross. I didn't look at it from the perspective that Jesus let his close disciples run around armed. Excellent point! And swords were NOT CCW--ya can't conceal them things!! :D

RAE, I think you're a tad confused. It was Matthew who was the tax collector. Matthew 9:9-11 "9As Jesus went on from there, he saw a man named Matthew sitting at the tax collector's booth. "Follow me," he told him, and Matthew got up and followed him. 10While Jesus was having dinner at Matthew's house, many tax collectors and "sinners" came and ate with him and his disciples. 11When the Pharisees saw this, they asked his disciples, "Why does your teacher eat with tax collectors and `sinners'?"

Peter was a fisherman. Matthew 4:18-20 "18As Jesus was walking beside the Sea of Galilee, he saw two brothers, Simon called Peter and his brother Andrew. They were casting a net into the lake, for they were fishermen. 19"Come, follow me," Jesus said, "and I will make you fishers of men." 20At once they left their nets and followed him."

I don't remember that any of the original 12 disciples were Roman citizens, and can find no evidence of it in my quick search. Paul was a Roman citizen, and did use this to his advantage to try obtain a fair trial.

Yes, the Founding Fathers did have access to the King James Bible, as it was translated in 1611, well before 1776.

--Denise
 
Denise,
You are of course correct (apply red face generously here), brain should be fully engaged before keyboard is put in motion. My apology for posting without fully researching and relying on memory alone. I should have paid more attention in my (parochial) New Testamant classes instead of looking for more interesting stories in the Bible. Thank you for calling me on it, it's high time I go back and reread the Bible.
 
RAE, it's ok. Pointing out errors is a specialty of mine. :) Sometimes I'm even correct in my corrections! :rolleyes:
I'm (whew!) so glad you took it in the same friendly manner in which I wrote. -- Denise

PS. Now about that Aramaic translation idea: the New Testament was originally written in Greek and most of the Old Testament was originaly written in Hebrew, so Aramaic would certainly not be as close as you could get . . . but now we're certainly getting off topic for The Firing Line, so I'll cease and desist. :D
Back to swords and such.
 
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