Navy SEALS SIG P226 9mm

[Bedeviler]

The S.E.A.L.s are one of the top elite Special Ops team in the world, and they are one of the best trained soldiers out there. I couldn't tell you if they are better than the Rangers or SAS or Howdy Doody, or other Spec Ops teams nor do I care cause they all do a great job regardless of branch. And nobody should make any comments about which is a better team since they are'nt in one. Even a member of another team should not comment on what the other team does or is since they are not in that particular team and don't know what they do or how they train. One can't say that they are better than the other. That would be plain arrogant and will only get your butt shot out there. They all and should work as a team.

The SEALs have become popular in the early 90's do to movies and media not to their liking, which are all fake and which the SEALs themselves don't like! They are suppose to be a quiet elite team till the media starts advertising them. They are not a bunch of rogue soldiers who are killing machines portrayed in the movies. They are well disciplined soldiers, more than the average ones. And there is not very many of them compared to other teams, but they usually work in small teams of 6-12 anyways and not a massive army build up. The movie "Top Gun" did the same for the real Top Gun. they don't break rules for fun and there is no Maverick there.

They use the 9MM P226 and I don't think they wrry about it being a small caliber weapon since they are trained to shoot precisely and accurately with two to the heart and one to the head. If you are shot at the right place, I don't think you will be a threat much longer regardless of caliber size.

By the way, the Air Force Spec Ops team are the Nightriders/Nightstalkers. The Nightriders are a search and rescue team who are killers and medics at the same time to get downed pilots. The stalkers are more of a night helicopter drop attack spec ops team similar to the SEALs and Delta Force.

 

[Handy]

That is correct, the 228 is the M11, the 226 has no military name as it was never adopted. The 228 was adopted because it is compact for use by small handed people, aircrew and plainclothes work.

 

[KSFreeman]

Who's best arguments are for the clerks and jerks. I don't mess with any of them (except for all the doughy bags of mayo who call themselves former Seolus Scouts, RLI, et al at my gun club).

It was my understanding that the TO&E is liberally construed among the commanders. Makes sense--what do you guys want? O.K., we'll get them. If you really want to know, why not just stay up one weekend and watch the Discovery Channel. It seems this band of secret warriors is always on there.

 

[corsair]

MeekAndMind- Salt water does present a problem, this is the reason NSW uses the S&W 686. Stainless steel revolver greatly reduces corrosion and reduces the chances of fouling. The 226, although reliable have had problems with the magazines rusting. This doesn't mean semi-autos are not used in ocean ops. Situation dictates tools used. Some are more proven and effective in certain environments.

Rock_Jock- Due to the nature of NSW training, only the best and most qualified are accepted. The current world climate is not going to cause NSW to reduce their requirements to meet a quota increase. To do that would cheapin' the training and caliber of the community, not to mention the possiblity of a catstophy that could've been avoided. Can't say I quit or breakdown in the middle of a fire-fight or hot extraction.

DocSpanky- The H&K SOCOM is the only threaded sidearm in large #'s in inventory. Most if not all of the Sigs are unchanged from the manufaturer, save for spring and grip mods. Silenced pistols used in the past I understand were P9's. The purpose of the SOCOM was a service wide pistol with multiple uses. In some cases, replacing the MP5 and M4 in CQB and ship boarding situations. Much has been written about the size and weight of the "clump" as it's referred to. Most SpecOp operators tend to be conservative in the acceptance of a new tools or techniques, especially if it deviates from the established norm. The SOCOM although it still has it's detractors, is slowly gaining acceptance.

UMP45- Most of the Sigs used are stamped slides. Milled ones will probably start appearing once the older one's service life has expired. NSW shoots a rate of ammo that most of us will never come across. The wear and tear they experience doesn't even compare with what we can put through.

As far has what service is better. None are better than the other. Each unit was created and is used for specific ops. SEAL's are best suited for direct action missions, and survailance the closer to the water the better. Operations in and around water, NSW is best suited. SF, does missions same as NSW except they are land oriented. Also they are the unit of choice for counter-insurgency and hearts 'n minds operatons operations. Marine Force units primarily do reconaissance for Marine ground units. They are very capable of doing other missions similar to Rangers, NSW and SF. Occasionally they will be chopped to perform missions outside of their Marine responsibilities.