Nashville Man Defends Against Apartment Invasion with AR15

She actually knew the perp. This bad economy is bringing out the worst in people. Perhaps the moral of this story is that its time to weed out the questionable friends. Only rock solid friends continue to be invited over and those friends get the talk. The GF too if she can't keep a cork in it.

He stopped them at the door though! You have to give him that, even with all the mistakes he made. I'm not sure why one would answer the door with a rifle, but things were happening fast for him so I'll just say huh, glad it worked out for him.

Now I am thinking about my friends and wondering who should get cut.
 
2. The homeowner OPENED THE DOOR to a man who was blocking the peephole. The story says he opened the door after the peephole was unblocked though why you would open the door to a man who was wearing a mask and gloves and carrying a pistol puzzles me. This seems like a really poor tactical choice; but I'm glad it worked out for the homeowner despite that.
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So you are going with certain information as factual for disucssion and throwing out other information and replacing it with what you think happened because you don't believe it? I can understand your disbelief of specific facts, but replacing the information with facts you make up to suit the story doesn't seem to offer any better reliability.

And if the one or two peephole thing is too confusing for you, here is an alternate decision making strategy - if you don't feel it is safe to open the door without an AR15, don't open the door.
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Hmm, I don't really feel that it is a good idea to open the door to an unknown person without a firearm, so I should never open the door? Or is it that the standard is that it is okay to open the door if all I think is sufficient is a pistol, but if I think I need the AR15, then I should not open it?

We even answer the door armed when we can see someone we know on the porch.

"When a man with a pistol meets a man with a rifle, the man with the pistol is a dead man!"
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Cute saying, but not a truism and certainly not the absolute it is made out to be.
 
BarryLee makes a good point about gun magazines lying in your recycle bin where they can be seen by passersby ... here's a better idea than putting them in with the fish heads and dog food cans ... cut off the subscription address label and donate them to your local library ... I volunteer at our library; we have a few shelves for donated magazines, where anybody can just come in and take them ... a good way to help your neighbors and perhaps pass our love and respect for firearms on to somebody who might not have been exposed to shooting as a hobby, sport and means of self-defense ...
 
Home defender could have simply done a callout.

As in: "Who the hell is it and what do you want!" Delivered from a more advantageous interior position.

People seem to have an ingrained "need" to open their doors for improved situational awareness. Probably reinforced from a lifetime habit of doing exactly that for minor things. A mindless, conditioned reflex.

A habit to train yourself (and loved ones) out of.
 
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"When a man with a pistol meets a man with a rifle, the man with the pistol is a dead man!"
Cute saying, but not a truism and certainly not the absolute it is made out to be.
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It is true. I saw it in A Fistful of Dollars.
 
owner: who is it?
perp: candygram
owner: huh?
perp: i'm not a masked intruder with a gun or anything.
owner: ok, come on in
 
Two words. Security camera.

They can be inexpensive and in many instances wireless. They are often easy to hide as well.
 
Three words, "security screen door". I have multiple ways to watch the front door, but if I absolutely HAVE to open the door, you still face a tough, hard to see through security screen door of metal.
Good that the defender made it through OK.
 
Without being flippant, one peep hole is sufficient. If it is being covered, don't open the door.
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hahaha! :D

I am glad it worked out well for the home owner but I will never understand some peoples overpowering urge to open the door. If I dont know you, have not invited you...I dont answer the door (even when I know they can see me watching tv from the 6inch side lights)
 
Good no matter what the after thought is there is one less crook walking the streets wanting to do harm to people.
 
I'll bet the homeowners ears are still ringing.
Bottom line is though BG is dead, homeowner + GF are OK. AR-15 saved the day.


If all I had was a rifle or a carbine, I'd stand back from the entrance a good ways and have my girlfriend open the door
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My dad did that to me once...except the intruder was a woodchuck that ran into our garage. To this day I would have rather been the one with the gun than the one opening the garage door...
 
I must say this thread has opened my eyes. After lurking around for quite some time I have to finally say thank you to the people on this board for giving me more awareness into a growing facet of my life. I would of never been made aware of this had I not joined some sort of firearm forum.

I just recently, over the last 2 months, acquired the "bug" for shooting and firearms knowledge. I am hoping to make it a hobby that I can enjoy till the day I pass on. Being new to this I have told just about all of my good friends, my mother and my girlfriend of my new found hobby. Now I know when I start to actually purchase guns and safes and things of that nature to be very "hush hush" on who I release the information to. Also, those who are told are to not release the information to others in a irresponsible manor.

I would of never of thought of this as being a reason why someone would go out of their way to invade my home and possibly harm me or my family. And I am especially appreciative of this seeing as we will be welcoming a new life into our home in August so providing and protecting my first child is the number one concern for me in life.

Again I say thank you all for the litany of knowledge I have been able to learn over two short months and apologies for the long winded response.
 
Home owner should have called out, asking who it was. Then the nice sound of a shotgun being racked would have been a nice deteraint. But if all he had was the AR, then that is what you have to use, glad they were OK.
 
There are so many things in here as far as tactics...

Having visibility to the area around your entranceway
Peephole
Video
Other windows

Having a secondary door like a security storm door

Not opening a door when something is suspect - like not being able to see who is there, or something odd about the situation.

There are a lot of points, but the one that sticks out for me is that opening a door with a long gun is pretty tricky. Most long guns are deployed with two hands. Despite all the other things listed above, it would have been a lot easier for him to respond with a handgun.

The fact that the resident got pushed to the wall indicates to me that the intruder was close enough to grab the rifle... he just failed to.
 
Your home. Does not matter you are the home owner or a tenant. People try to harm you, you defend it. If you are a tenant your landlord will not let you make extra peepholes, nor to do alterations to the property. You always have the right to defend the best way you can. If you did and there is one less bad guy in the world, congratulation! How you did it is your business. I am sure everybody defends their life and their family the best way they can.
 
Chindo
Home defender could have simply done a callout.
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Unfortunately, I think the residents had already missed that exit on this particular highway.

It's 11pm. The man/woman at the door is covering the peephole. The neighborhood (the residents' past history, etc) is apparently sketchy enough that this sets off alarm bells.

The residents called the cops: Great choice imho.

Maybe I'm too old, but if people are knocking at 11pm and not ID'ing themselves, they are probably not on my "friends list."

Whoever is out there WANTS you to answer the door blindly. That's in their tactical advantage. I"m voting for hunkering down and calling for the police, AR or no.
 
Been in a home invasion before. Multiple armed guys. I did in fact open the door even after I already knew my mum and I were in grave danger. It was back in 1989. Mum went to the phone to call the cops and found out it was dead cut by the perps. At the time we did live in the burbs and we had some money at the house. Guy we loved and considered as close as family sold us out to his criminal friends we didn't know he had.

Don't be so judgmental if you are wondering why I opened the door already. My mum and I both naturally decided to open the door. The guys threatened to burn down the house with us in it. They had what looked like a can and they claimed it was full of gasoline. Once we realized we were out numbered, surprised, cornered and with no good options, that deadly fear and the warm smell of blood you feel in your nose when you know you are about to die washed over me. I lost all fear and felt like I was in a trance. The outer body experience of watching a movie that you are in set it.

Truth is neither my mum or I can really give you a logical answer why we decided to let them in. We just did. There was no fear no nothing, I just unlocked the door let them in. To this door my behavior has puzzled me. It would appear when you loose all hope you just tend to go along with whatever your tormentor asks you for. Strange but true. I had a cross bow with a bolt ready, but I just calmly put it down. It may have saved our lives, but it was not a calculated or rationally thought out act.

If that was now, I wouldn't be so cooperative. Someone would have some lead embedded in them real fast am sure. Atleast I think so, but only way you ever really find out is when the real thing happens.most of the time you are not even close in terms of what you think you'd do. :eek:
 
I'm still trying to figure out why he opened the door without knowing who was there. Also, why didn't he wait for the police to arrive before opening the door? Just because someone knocks, especially late at night, doesn't mean you have to open the door. He put himself and his GF at great risk by letting the assailant in the apartment.

Never open the door unless you KNOW and TRUST who is there.
 
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