NAA 22 Mag, Try This With Your 380

The NAA Minis have their purpose. They're reliable and not prone to corrosion and like you'd found out - it's still a lot better than bare fists.

There are a couple of major drawbacks aside from the mouse caliber, however:
- anyone with large hands will have a hard time cocking & shooting it
- reloading is pretty much impossible in a SD situation

Tabdog
NAA 22 Mag, Try This With Your 380
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Try this with your 380
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Don't got a .380 but I will try it with a Makarov, at the same distance and report the results. Does have me rather curious. Guess while I'm at it, will try it with a Kel-Tec .32 as well.
 
.22 Magnum is OK, but the NAA mini-revolver is approximately the least useful gun I can think of. The concealability is unbeatable, but unless you're a secret agent who wears a bathing suit most of the time, you don't need that level of concealability.
 
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You don't think a .380 FMJ will go through 2 2x4? Hmmmm.

Hay Grey Eyezz,

I thought most members could relate to shooting a 2X4.

I have shot 2X4's with 410, 12, 20 gage, 22, 22 wmr, 32,
38 Special, 9mm, 30-30, 17 HMR, Ect.

I have found that some 38 Special loads will not penetrate
some 2X4's. Some 2X4's are more dense than others.

A 380 will not penetrate a dense yellow pine 2X4.

Do not confuse energy with penetration.

A 32 auto has maybe a little more energy, but in a derringer,
it has less than 60 percent of the penetration of a 22 mag in
my NAA 22mag. I find the 32 auto has a little less penetration
than a 380, and a 380 has a little less penetration than a light
38 Special load. A 9mm or larger will easily pass through a 2X4
and may bust it in two.

I believe that a 22mag in my mini has as much penetration as
many 38 Special loads, and more than some. 22mag has more
penetration than a 380.

This can be important. A 32 can be stopped by clothing.

Think about it.

Back in the 1960's the most common weapon that caused
death in the United States was the 22 lr.

The 22 hand gun was known as the mob's hit gun.

Times have changed. After Dirty Harry, everyone thinks you
need a cannon to do the job.

In rare cases, that may be true, but it's rare in real life.

Happy Shootin,

Tabdog
 
[Quote by Lightning Joe] but unless you're a secret agent who wears a bathing suit most of the time, you don't need that level of concealability.
Hay Lightning Joe,

When I am metal detecting with just jeans and a tea shirt,
I am bending and squatting with no belt or pouch. It is too
much trouble to carry even my KelTec.

It was so much trouble that I did not have it when I was
attacked in a park while metal detecting.

I was out of commission for over a month. All I had was my
digger to protect my self.

If I had had my 22mag, he would have been the one out of
commission, not me!

That is a big difference.

I say this,

Unless you're a secret agent who wears a bathing suit most
of the time, you don't need that level of power. A 22 will handle
what most people have to deal with. That is far from useless.

I carry more power when I am able. I keep a 45 in my car. Too
many have been blown away in their cars around here. Like a
guy I worked with for 3 years. Like the Presidents top aid. Yes
that is right!!! One of the President's top aids was blown away
in his car, on a city street in Little Rock. No big deal. Happens
all the time. They did not even bother to investigate. Maybe it
was because it was Clinton's aid, I don't know???

Life is a gamble. A big gun does not guarantee anything.

It does make a fella feel more comfortable though.

Happy Sh@@tin,

Tabdog
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I'm positive my Bersa with 3.5" barrel will go through 2 2x4. Barrel length is the key. Shorter barrel maybe not. Hell, I'll bet one of my Gold Dots will do it easily.
 
Tabdog
When I am metal detecting with just jeans and a tea shirt,
I am bending and squatting with no belt or pouch. It is too
much trouble to carry even my KelTec.

It was so much trouble that I did not have it when I was
attacked in a park while metal detecting.

I was out of commission for over a month. All I had was my
digger to protect my self.

If I had had my 22mag, he would have been the one out of
commission, not me!

That is a big difference.
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Sorry to hear of your attack Tabdog.
I was thinking that the Colt you have would be perfect in a nice hip holster, for open carry, if you're out by yourself in a park. It appears that open carry is illegal in Arkansas? :mad:

I have an NAA mini .22mag 1 5/8, and really like it. I personally try to think of it as a sort of "knife"-but less personal. That's probably not the best way to explain it. I know it's a firearm, but I try not to count it as one (for myself), so I'll have something more substantial with me just in case. It certainly is better than no gun, for sure.
 
Maybe I am wrong on this, but isn't wooden body armor ancient history now?

So a .22 mag NAA mini penetrates X amount of wood. How does the rate of fire compare to a Kel Tec P380, Ruger RCP, Colt Pony, etc? Which has the greater capacity? Which can be reloaded faster?

Don't get me wrong. I backpocket carry a NAA Mini in .22 lr. They have their place, but they are something of a limited tool.
 
^^^I had read this in a mag also somewhere. Can't find it now. But it wasn't stated as the most common weapon....It was the firearm accounted with the most deaths. My guess is because of the number of people who owned one.

Beentown

Hi-jack over.
 
Maybe I am wrong on this, but isn't wooden body armor ancient history now?

So a .22 mag NAA mini penetrates X amount of wood. How does the rate of fire compare to a Kel Tec P380, Ruger RCP, Colt Pony, etc? Which has the greater capacity? Which can be reloaded faster?

Hay DN Spy,

I don't know anything about wooden body armor, but clothing has stopped
lots of bullets. The 22 will deflect more easily. So it is just choice.

The rate of fire compares to any single action. Isn't that apples and oranges?

I am not into standing around and reloading and having a big time gangster
shoot out in a city park. I am not in the FBI.

I just want to have a way to discourage some dummy who think they can
jump this old man and get by with it unscathed.

That would rarely require a cannon.

I will leave the big shoot outs to you Dirty Harry guys.

Happy Shootin,

Tabdog
 
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Mind citing where you found this claim?

Where have you been??

How old are you???

You can waste your time looking it up.

I will pass.

Happy Shooting,

Tabdog
 
^^^I had read this in a mag also somewhere. Can't find it now. But it wasn't stated as the most common weapon....It was the firearm accounted with the most deaths. My guess is because of the number of people who owned one.

Hay Beentown,

Yes you are right.

I said it wrong.

I did not think about other types of weapons.

Most should remember these facts.

The 22 was notorious as the mobs choice for a hit gun.

Cheep and disposable.

It was also just a statistical fact that more people were
dieing from 22's than any other firearm.

It was discussed in numerious newspaper and magazine
articles at the time.

Happy Huntin,

Tabdog
 
I tried to dispatch a wounded deer on the road with a NAA .22 mag. Very unimpressive to the base of the skull. Neighbors lightd came on so I couldn't finish, but I test fired it from the same distance the next day at a target and was dead on. Sold it and got a j frame the following day, never missed that gun. YMMV
 
Tabdog:


You know your situation better than anyone else, but if you've got a pocket, you can carry a P32 or even a snubnose. I carry a 642 in everything except a bathing suit (only hit the pool every couple of years). Shorts, sweatpants, blue jeans, everything. A fanny pack works, too, if you don't have a pocket. An NAA mini is better than nothing, but it's worse than practically any other gun.
 
Dispatching animals

I have killed several steers with a 22 rifle. Shoot'em right between the eyes, or behind the poll. A 45 colt will ricochet off a cow skull at point blank range. Penetration is king, if you hit the target. 22 mag is a great penetration round.
 
I'll say it once again, wish I could come up with the article, but a .22 is nothing to frown about, years ago some game hunter took down an elephant, one shot, one .22 rifle. Some people think they half to have cannon strapped to there side, nice if that's what you want, but I would not care to be in front of a .22 in the hands of a decent shooter, chances are your going to be just as dead as if you were shot with a "Rat Gun". And Tabdog your right, they've lost count on .22 deaths. ;)
 
I don't see why anyone would knock 40 grains at 1200+fps. It's not massive, but that's not exactly small potatoes either.
 
If I were wrapped up with a BG and in the midst of being beat severely about the head and body, I would absolutely use a 22mag out of a NAA mini revolver with confidence. Stick that barrel in an ear eye the chest abdomen or crotch and pull the trigger, you will be amazed how devastating a 22mag HP or ballistic tip is internally. At much more than arms length against a determined assailant not so much confidence in any of the mini revolvers(simply due to their design). Now if you want to avoid the beating part all together get the largest most powerful center fire hand gun you will consistently carry on your person.

A 45 colt will ricochet off a cow skull at point blank range.
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Yeah maybe if one is using rubber bullets, otherwise not so much. I have shot 45Colt in everything from a 2 inch O/U derringer to a Winchester Trapper model carbine and multiple handguns in between. Using loads from so called mild "cowboy" loads to Ruger / TC only loads and they all will punch a 45 caliber hole right through a bovine skull at point blank range.
 
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