My wife just gave a sheeple a dose of reality!

Red Bull

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My sister-in-law is visiting. She is sleeping in the front room on the sofa. She has been sleeping with the sliding glass door wide open and the curtains closed because it is hot. (Gee, and four people were just stabbed to death in their sleep by an intruder, an hour from here).
My wife is pretty sold on self defense, although she does leave a lot of it up to me most of the time, which I do not mind.
So, my sis-in-law says "I sleep with the sliding glass door open, because if someone comes through the curtains, I am going to hear it and wake up."
So, my wife says "So....then what would you do?"

The silence was precious! A dose reality hit my sis-in-law. It was great. Exactly what would she do? So she woke up...so what? Now what, idiot?

I let the silence and truth set in and then I said "just be sure to scream loud enough to wake us up, while he is stabbing you" :)
 
Red Bull,
We got to change em one at a time my friend....one at a time. ;)


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"Lead, follow or get the HELL out of the way."
 
Well, I woke up this morning and she was sleeping on the sofa with not only the sliding glass door open, but the curtains open also, with the TV shining on her for everyone to see.

She seems to think "it will never happen to her"


Oh well, we tried. I take care of me and mine. My room is fortified and no one is getting in to it, so my wife and I am safe.
 
Red Bull,

You could always try shock treatment. With your wifes permission, it is her sister after all, come sneaking through the door at 3:00 this morning and awaken her very rudely. Then have your wife explain to her next time that it may be a rapist with a knife or gun. Just read the papers, rape goes up during hot spells because women leave their windows open.

If she gets angry with you, so what! After all, she is endangering you and your wifes safety as well!
 
Screaming is a reactive response, and probably insufficient in itself. You must tell her to (after screaming) call for a policeman with a gun (no gun? don't bother coming), and pray that he arrives in time. How much time ????? Ask the felon.......it's his plan, and he's in control of the situation. Good Luck.
 
Use a rubber knife to her throat. Tell her (once she awakens and recognizes you) that she has 30 seconds to live, and start counting down. Ask her what she intends to do.

Object lesson.
 
I agree ... this woman is a risk to you as well.

And, the most you can do is try to get such people to listen the first time. After that, I figure Darwin takes over.

Regards from AZ
 
Wow. With all due respect to your wife's sister, and no malice to you or yours aforethought: Natural Selection just isn't working the way it's supposed to anymore.
PLEASE Take Care- Dakotan
 
My mom is one of those that thinks a 110 pound unarmed woman can scare off any BG. Her false sense of security came from years ago when I was about 8 and a burglar with 9 prior convictions broke into our home. He expected an empty home and came accross her. He ran because he was one of the few that prefers not to add assault. I bet she won't be so lucky next time. Oh well, there is only so much I can do to help her from 1500 miles away.
 
Red Bull,

I've got many friends that don't understand self-defense via firearms too. I think they are this way because their life has never been threatened by another. You can only lead that horse to water, and that's it.

I've been hungry before in my life, and I do my best to stay well-fed. I've lost my job before, and I do my best to stay employed. But if my life is taken by an aggressor, I can't do my best to stay alive after I'm dead. Lesson best learned in advance.

Stay alert.
 
You could invite your sister to live with you permanantly. You can have her sleep on the sofa in the front room all the time.. She could be your early detection warning system. She screams, you wake up and secure the safe room with you and your wife safely inside. :D



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The first step is registration, the second step is confiscation, the final step is subjugation.
 
Morgues and cemetaries are full of "other people" because it can't happen to me, right?
I hope your sister in law doesn't have kids. If she wants to roll the dice I suppose that's her decision but I'd hate it if she took a couple of kids with her.

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Those who use arms well cultivate the Way and keep the rules.Thus they can govern in such a way as to prevail over the corrupt- Sun Tzu, The Art of War
 
It does happen and it did. I was 12 yrs old. The whole story is not important but the fact that I survived is.

Your guest is an idiot just asking to be assaulted. She is putting your whole family at risk.

Genie
 
Let me go on...


She is 18, a real honest-to-god virgin and attractive.
I keep asking her how she will feel if she loses her virginity to a rapist?
You would think that would strike a bone with her, but it only gets her thinking for about two seconds, I can see her brain working, and then she dismisses it.


She also works at a coffee shop and closes by herself at 12:30 am. While cleaning the coffee shop, she opens up all the doors and windows "because it is hot". This is a coffee shop on a beach boardwalk, and anyone that knows the beach, knows that at midnight there is no one around but the bums and low lifes, with the occasional romantic couple. Then she counts the till in the open with all the lights on and all the doors propped open, and walks to her car a mile away (literally) at 1 am to drive home.

She asked my wife to close the coffee shop with her once. I told my wife "no way". My "sis" then asked me why I won't let my wife close the coffee shop with her. I said "because I am responsible for her safety". She asked "well, don't you care about me?". I said, "first of all, I am directly responsible for my wife's safety, not for my sister in law's. Second, I have told you that you are a fool for closing this place by yourself in the middle of the night with all the doors propped open. Lastly, you are an adult, I have told you it is dangerous, and if you want to endanger yourself that is fine, but my wife is not going to partake in such idiocy".
My wife asked her what she would do if a rapist came into the shop while she was counting the money behind the counter and distracted with her work. She said she would lure them behind the counter and then hop the counter and run away. Yeah, right. Nice plan. Now, how about we get real.


She also goes jogging by herself....at night....wearing headphones!.
Need I mention that this is in a very huge city with a high crime rate? (She is from Oregon and perhaps thinks everywhere is safe (or safer) like her hometown.


Finally, it gets one step worse: her dad is a police officer of over 30 years! You would think he would have taught her something?

But, I am convinced (I am almost serious here) that it is genetic. Here is why: Her dad is a cop who used to sleep with a gun under his pillow. This was with his first wife. Then, he remarried later to an anti-gun bigot who then had my sister-in-law.
So, my wife got her dad's genes, plus his first wife's genes, and my wife has come along nicely with my help.
My sister in law on the other hand got the tainted genes from the anti-gun bigot mom.
Now, mom and daughter are sheeple, both convinced that "it will never happen to them".

The good thing is, I have taken this sis shooting and she loved it, so she is over her anti-gun silliness, but she is still a sheeple that thinks nothing bad will ever happen to her because "it only happens to other people".

Regarding her sleeping habits, I am quite serious when I say that she acts as an alarm for us. If she wants to sleep in the front room and be the first to get ganked, then hopefully she will scream and wake us up or at least kick the walls if she is being choked to death. As you can tell, I have consoled myself in that I have tried to educate her and I have now given up. If she gets herself killed, it is her problem. My room is very well fortified, and someone can go ahead and come into the home, but they ain't getting into the room without a long fight.
For her benefit, we do live in an extremely safe neighborhood...gated community, strolling security guard, affluent part of town. She may get away with the way she acts, but I am not taking risks with me and mine.

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Sounds like the best thing you can do for her is to scare her sh_tless, either with the rubber knife thing, or stalking her on her jogs. Maybe put on a ski mask and visit her at closing time.

I lived in Champaign, IL for a while when going to school there, and they had a string of rapes perpetrated my a guy who did nothing more than check women's apartments for unlocked doors.

Women can't outrun most men, so she obviously doesn't have the facts (or know the difference between men's and women's track and field records).

Her age and the isolation of small towns could shape her unrealistic outlook too. Genetics has little to do with it, but upbringing has everything to do with it.
 
Red Bull, thanks for an educational story.

Really ... some people just will not allow themselves to be helped. You've given her good advice, and diplomatically confronted her about placing your wife at the same risk.

Fact is, the odds are still in her favor that she'll never have a problem. Hopefully she'll just have a scare someday, either personally or via a friend. It's a shame that it takes this for some people to come out of the ether.

Take care.

Live and let live. Regards from AZ
 
I read the first part, and agreed with the people who told you to tell her to "get a room, and them leave the door open". Also, your house, your rules, door closed. Next time she wants to come visit, say you are really anal about your living room, and that it has to be clean, and tidy, and hot with the door closed and the bad guys outside. And she has to go to a motel. I read the second part about her, her profile kind of. And I was reading this, and I was like "what kind of person thinks like this?". You should be glad she doesnt own a gun, this is the kind of person that we dont want owning guns.
 
I apologize, but I feel it will take nothing short of a very bad accident to change her mind.

Similar situation. My girlfriend had an attitude very similar to what you describe. It only took an attempted assault on the both of us (which required me to draw my gun) to change her opinion(s) and how she "looks at the world."

I can assure you, she looks over her shoulder a lot more often then she ever used to.

..of course... a little bit of paranoia talk from myself didn't hurt either. :D

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