My run in with Cops, Escaped Prisoners and no gun!
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So, change the scenario a little more:
as soon as the last cop car turns the corner, our friendly neighborhood escaped con comes out of the bushes, then does the evil deed to our friend, Meiji. Funerals, lawsuits, etc., etc.
The result is the same, but it could have been prevented if even ONE LEO had said, "Golly, son, you should be packin'!" and stayed behind and helped him out a bit.
Meiji, you should be gettin' some letters off to the Layton Police Chief, Gov. Mike, your legislators, and the editors of the Salt Lake Trib and DesNews. Under any other circumstances, the first LEO there probably would have helped you out and made sure that you were gonna' get home OK.
This is also proof that LEOs can't look after the protection of every citizen individually, and, so, we MUST take care of ourselves. And if that means packin', then so be it.
I've heard of people saying, "I'll just call 911." But, having a phone for protection only works if you can smack the bad guy on the head hard enough with the phone to knock him out until the police get there.
So, Meiji, when are we gonna' go shootin'?
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by mrat:
Lets look at this scenario a little different. ... the guy is hiding in Meiji's car. Meiji is later found dead with his throat slit. All the officers are fired and sued in civil court. Why? They should have searched Meiji's car to make sure the guy wasn't there. Law Enforcement is one of the jobs that no matter what you do someone thinks you are wrong.
Fairln,
I agree with your post 110%.
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as soon as the last cop car turns the corner, our friendly neighborhood escaped con comes out of the bushes, then does the evil deed to our friend, Meiji. Funerals, lawsuits, etc., etc.
The result is the same, but it could have been prevented if even ONE LEO had said, "Golly, son, you should be packin'!" and stayed behind and helped him out a bit.
Meiji, you should be gettin' some letters off to the Layton Police Chief, Gov. Mike, your legislators, and the editors of the Salt Lake Trib and DesNews. Under any other circumstances, the first LEO there probably would have helped you out and made sure that you were gonna' get home OK.
This is also proof that LEOs can't look after the protection of every citizen individually, and, so, we MUST take care of ourselves. And if that means packin', then so be it.
I've heard of people saying, "I'll just call 911." But, having a phone for protection only works if you can smack the bad guy on the head hard enough with the phone to knock him out until the police get there.
So, Meiji, when are we gonna' go shootin'?
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by mrat:
Lets look at this scenario a little different. ... the guy is hiding in Meiji's car. Meiji is later found dead with his throat slit. All the officers are fired and sued in civil court. Why? They should have searched Meiji's car to make sure the guy wasn't there. Law Enforcement is one of the jobs that no matter what you do someone thinks you are wrong.
Fairln,
I agree with your post 110%.
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PreserveFreedom
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The best is when they say it isn't their car after you find a pound of narcotics sticking out from under the seat. Half of the time they weren't lieing though. They stole the car. :-\
I really find it facinating that what I THOUGHT this thread was going too, (Recept in Oregon and Wash), never materialized and instead the thread went to Stupid Criminal tricks on one board and a take off on Legal on "Why the damn cops should stay out of my car, and Meiji should have stood up for his rights!" on the other. Not bitching, but more an observation on "Thread Creep"
[This message has been edited by Meiji_man (edited July 27, 2000).]
[This message has been edited by Meiji_man (edited July 27, 2000).]
EXACTLY! Although I like pretty statues, cops need more money. If they are 'to protect and to serve', then, dangit, they need to do it, or let people alone. Sure these cops were after their escaped con, but what about this law-abiding citizen left there w/o a sidearm and a criminal on the loose?
If they would just leave the 2nd Amendment alone and punish the felons, then we'd be OK! Right?!
The point is to make the point that the cops can't be everywhere and can't take care of everyone, so the government needs to stop removing our rights to take care of ourselves and stop acting like our mommy.
Speaking of Mommies - I only have ONE (and she's enough!
), I don't need a whole beauracray-full of mommies to tell me 'don't play with that gun, someone's gonna get hurt.' Geez!
THOSE ARE THE KIND OF LETTERS I'M TALKIN' ABOUT!
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by mrat:
Letters? Letters for what? Because they didn't leave an officer with Mejii. You realize that every LE department in the country has limited resources, City council would rather spend their precious revenue on pretty statues for the park than proper police coverage. The kind of service you are referring to would result in an enormous tax increase to put vast amounts of LEOs on the streets. I think that would equal police state. [/quote]
[This message has been edited by seronac (edited July 27, 2000).]
If they would just leave the 2nd Amendment alone and punish the felons, then we'd be OK! Right?!
The point is to make the point that the cops can't be everywhere and can't take care of everyone, so the government needs to stop removing our rights to take care of ourselves and stop acting like our mommy.
Speaking of Mommies - I only have ONE (and she's enough!
), I don't need a whole beauracray-full of mommies to tell me 'don't play with that gun, someone's gonna get hurt.' Geez!THOSE ARE THE KIND OF LETTERS I'M TALKIN' ABOUT!
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by mrat:
Letters? Letters for what? Because they didn't leave an officer with Mejii. You realize that every LE department in the country has limited resources, City council would rather spend their precious revenue on pretty statues for the park than proper police coverage. The kind of service you are referring to would result in an enormous tax increase to put vast amounts of LEOs on the streets. I think that would equal police state. [/quote]
[This message has been edited by seronac (edited July 27, 2000).]
Seronac,
Any LEO that doesn't believe in the RKBA has their head up their rear. As an LEO I know the kind of people that we allow to wander our streets. That is why my wife has a loaded glock and I bought a large german shepard that REALLY dislikes strangers. I hope the above protects my family while I am chasing the scum that are preying on our citizens.
I am sure the officers in this scenario would have liked to help Mejii but we are not a priorty to the elected officials and are always understaffed. I have been in many sitituations where we didn't have the manpower to handle something and I was pretty sure I was going to meet Saint Peter.
Any LEO that doesn't believe in the RKBA has their head up their rear. As an LEO I know the kind of people that we allow to wander our streets. That is why my wife has a loaded glock and I bought a large german shepard that REALLY dislikes strangers. I hope the above protects my family while I am chasing the scum that are preying on our citizens.
I am sure the officers in this scenario would have liked to help Mejii but we are not a priorty to the elected officials and are always understaffed. I have been in many sitituations where we didn't have the manpower to handle something and I was pretty sure I was going to meet Saint Peter.
I agree. Thanks for doing what you can with so little. Give 'em he11!
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by mrat:
Seronac,
Any LEO that doesn't believe in the RKBA has their head up their rear. As an LEO I know the kind of people that we allow to wander our streets.
... we are not a priorty to the elected officials and are always understaffed.[/quote]
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by mrat:
Seronac,
Any LEO that doesn't believe in the RKBA has their head up their rear. As an LEO I know the kind of people that we allow to wander our streets.
... we are not a priorty to the elected officials and are always understaffed.[/quote]