My Glock will not be my bedstand gun.

heres an alternative...

i bought those remote box things that replace the light switches. if i hear a noise,i hit the button,lights come on in the house and my 1911 is kept by the clock,cocked,safty on,full mag but not loaded.if youre that nervous about accidently discharging your weapon,it may help you feel more safe by doing a few things to your home such as the remote light switch,prickly shrubs around your windows,motion detectors outside.alarm systems can be defeated,get one that operates independantly from your phone.these items cost little and can be purchased at radio shack,sears and most shubery retailers.
 
Its good to see that there are others like me. You folks have given me a few great ideas. I'll discuss these with my wife and we'll come up with a good solution, for sure. Others of you have focused on things that are outside the scope of my issue, and I hope that you can improve your reading comprehension skills.
 
I have to admit I know what your talking about. Something like this did happen to me once. I was sleeping and for some reason
the lamp on our dresser fell over, needless to say I woke up. What scared the hell out of me was the fact that, when the fog
cleared I realized I was holding a pistol with a round in the chamber my sights already aquired on the offending lamp, and my finger moving to the trigger!!!!:eek: I normallly keep my weapon in condition three in my home. I had somehow even managed to rack the slide in the split second it took me retreive my weapon. The only thing that made me feel good was that safety securely locked in safe on my weapon prevented an AD. I have since then added a gun box to my weapon, I react instantly to stimulus like that, A glock pistol would never make it to my night stand.
 
I'd put any semi-auto on the nightstand with an empty chamber, full magazine, and safety off. If you get startled, simply rack the slide. Anybody that MIGHT be thinking of doing you harm will more-than-likely wet themselves and run away before confronting you. I prefer shotguns for home defense and still keep chamber empty, safety off, and loaded magazine.
 
I don't want my gun to be in my hand PERIOD if I'm not fully awake and alert. Peoples' solutions will vary, but Steve I do admire your responsibility in thinking out this scenario.

As for me, I keep my 1911 cocked n' locked but in a place that requires conciously opening up a box. It is just out of reach so I have to stretch halfway out of bed to get to it. It may not help me if an assailant reaches my bed before I awaken, but the fact is that in such a scenario a person's survival chances are slim regardless. Even if you had ready access to your gun, if your assailant is armed as well he'll shoot before you get a chance to grabe your gun and swing it into action.
 
For a nightstand gun I finally settled on a hi-cap DA/SA auto with a safety, chamber loaded, hammer down, safety on, with a mounted light. Night sights. Also a hammer spur to cock to SA. Gun is hidden, but within easy one-hand reach. No slide racking, in case you want to stay silent. No holster because it takes two hands to put the gun into action. The rest of the house is guarded by a portable motion detector alarm from Radio Shack that really works good, so far.
 
I am also a deep and "active" sleeper. I keep my gun cocked & locked, but in an UNLOCKED lockbox next to the bed. I find that by having to reach for, and open the box forces me to be awake. But I put the combination in and unlock it before I go to bed, that way I don't have to try and punch the keys when I am in a hurry. When I get up in the morning, I turn the latch and relock the box to keep my daughter out of it.

And for those of you who suggest Steve shouldn't own a gun because he is a deep sleeper. That is just plain absurd.
 
my point is...

there are a few things that one might do to lessen the chances of an encounter with a burglar.our neighborhood was a quiet one too but several years ago,there were several breakins in homes that people were either sleeping or awake.another homeowner was assaulted and raped.police cornered the guy one block away but he escaped and was never caught so you can imagine how our nights were for awhile.since then,ive added a few items to make my house less desirable to rob and the chances of being assaulted in my home reduced.you wont need to shoot if burglars decide your not an easy target.its an off reply to the subject but i felt i worth mentioning as my 1911 is a last resort to any home invasion.be safe.
 
Correia,

I am at times refered to as being harsh; but, seldom am I refered to as being absurd.

It is not a matter of a person being a "deep sleeper." I am one who normally takes a small explosive device to wake. However, once awake, I am in full command of my senses. This is instantaneous. Perhaps I seem harsh because of an inability to relate to Steve's condition.

I would not live in an abode with someone who, by their own admission, does not have full control of his (or her) faculties and yet thinks nothing of having a loaded firearm while in said condition. To place the firearm in a position where the person would be in full control of their reasoning ability before they took possession would seem logical and prudent.

There in lies the bottom line. Steve and the other members of his household must live with the decision he makes. Such is life.
 
Steve,

We regularly practice drills, just like fire drills, tornado drills, etc.

My role is to confront an intruder and buy my wife the extra seconds to wake, arm herself and assess the situation. If I can buy three seconds, that is plenty.

Consider this; if someone got past me, and she unloaded a full clip into them, even two or three full clips, it would go a long, LONG way in any civil case, even if the intruder was a punk teenager. And if they didn't get through me, there would be two of us which would make disposing of the body much easier :D

Another thing to consider in addition to the fine suggestions above, is to lay a towel over the pistol,. It is hidden from an intruder's view, but I'll be damned if you would be able to get to it in your half-wakened state. May not be a good option for you, but another option to think about.

As for a good dog, I wholeheartedly agree, they cannot be beat.
 
KP95DAO,

But when you're absurd, you ARE absurd!

One of the things I remember from Army training is that you should always wake up soldiers from the feet end if you must touch them because they're not responsible for what they do for about a minute. Guess you weren't there. We had firearms, knives, and some pretty good other training.

You're no different. The time Steve's concerned about, relative to your case, is between the "small explosion" and being fully awake. If you think YOU go from one to the other in an instant, you're again being absurd. Most people don't function at all during that period because they're not trained to react. They just lie there until it dawns on them that they've been awakened by a small explosion or something else, and that takes SEVERAL seconds.

However, other people can function quite well during the time between being suddenly startled awake and being "fully" awake. Depends on their training, and just like the Army taught, give them and yourself the necessary latitude so their trained reflexive actions don't become a problem.
 
I don't know ...


After reading thru this thread again, and busting my sides laughing for a second time, I'm beginning to think poor Steve's situation could escalate.

I mean, what if instead of merely slamming a door for some domestic fun, his wife slid a lit M-80 under the bed while Steve's off in Never-Never Land? Testing the limits - ain't marriage grand? :D
 
KP95DAO, you make some pretty broad statements.

"I would not live in an abode with someone who, by their own admission, does not have full control of his (or her) faculties and yet thinks nothing of having a loaded firearm while in said condition."

In one sentence, you say that (#1) I'm not in fulll control of my faculties, AND (#2) that I think "nothing" of having a loaded firearm in that condition.

I'll address these seperately.
#1, How do you know whether I'm in full control of my faculties? Have you been spying on me? Have you seen me wearing a football helmet in the shopping mall, or getting off the "short bus?" I seem to be fully in control of my fingers right now, and my back and neck are erect while sitting in this chair. I haven't pooped my pants since I was potty trained...

See how broad that was?

#2, Assuming that you actually meant, "not in full control of my faculties when being startled from sleep," I brought this problem up here didn't I? Doesn't that show some concern?

It takes a lot to really get me riled up...my friends here know that...I think you can tell that you've done it. I don't understand what you people get out of backing the 2nd ammentment, but you also say that people like me "shouldn't have access to firearms." You speak out of both sides of your mouth, if you know what I mean. (By "you people" I'm grouping you with those who feel that they can determine who is and is not of sound mind and body, and who does and who doesn't have the right to self defense. I'm sure if you knew every intimate detail of everyone here at TFL, you'd decide that only you are fit to protect yourself, and the rest of use should grovel like dogs at your feet. I can hear you now, "You're too old, you're dangerous! You're too frail, you're dangerous! You're too young, you're dangerous! You're too dark skinned, you're dangerous! You're too...." See where this is going?


How do you like it?
Stop judging me.
 
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Like I said earlier, I think Steve is the smartest one here simply for acknowledging a problem and trying to seek a resolution. There are some here who sleep with their piece directly under their pillow. Maybe you think it's safe, but you certainly won't catch ME sleeping in the next door motel room!
 
"I think Steve is the smartest one here simply for acknowledging a problem and trying to seek a resolution."

Amen. Dovetails nicely with TFL's Mission Statement.

PS- GunVault.
 
You should not have the gun on the nightstand anyway as thats where the crook will look to take it from you as you sleep and kill you. put it in some other less obvious place like between the mattress and box springs or get a bed holster. ALso you need a good light next to or attached to that pistol so you can see and identify what you might shoot.
PAT
 
Ultimate in self defence.

Steve, when you go to bed at night, slap on a Janet Reno mask and use that as your self defence weapon.

That would give the screaming memies to any hardcore criminal.

12-34hom.
 
OH, bother.

Steve,

All I have to go on is what you have shared with us. I refer you back to your first post.

I stand by what I have said and " I think, perhaps, you protest too much."

I have already taken one response to PM over this with someone else and would have done so with you if that was how you wanted to play it. Guess not.
 
I don't feel like this needs to go to PM. Now you're telling me that I'm stretching the boundaries of the 1st ammendment (I "protest" too much). That is a public issue, not private.
 
I'm sorry Steve. I thought that everyone would get my paraphrased reference to "Me thinks he doth protest too much."

If you don't know what that means, I apologize.
 
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