I would lose the friend. Think about the legal liabilities if it happens again. A friend of mine had a brother who was a total idiot. This guy almost shot me with a Mini-14. While I was off the firing line, this bozo had to show me his target. He ran towards me with the loaded rifle and Bozo tripped and fell, pulled the trigger and the gun went off. Well, the bullet hit a tree next to me and when I turned back to him I said" can I see that please". I took the mag out, cleared and made sure it empty and while holding it by the butt, I hit the tree as hard as I could with the barrel bending it 10 degrees. I then handed it back and reamed him on the spot. Booze and guns don't mix and lack of brains is no excuse. Lose the friend or sleep in a bunker.
my friend discharged a 12 ga in his home
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IZinterrogator
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Now, now, the gun is a tool, and cannot be responsible for a ND. On the other hand, the idiot in question was responsible for the ND, and should have been grabbed by the ankles and swung into the tree. Punishing the gun is exactly the mindset of the gungrabbers.
Death from Afar
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I was out nightshooting with a dude, and when we were having tea, he left a mossburg 12 bore leaning (!) against a truck with one in the chamber, cocked, and the safety off! 
The dude was a second Lt, and my mate who was with me was a Major, and I have never , ever, been the recipeient of, or seen a more spectacular "tune up". The langauge, it was poetry , honestly.
The dude was a second Lt, and my mate who was with me was a Major, and I have never , ever, been the recipeient of, or seen a more spectacular "tune up". The langauge, it was poetry , honestly.
Bent Mini-14
If you think about it Bozo had to pay $150+ to repair his gun but you guys are right. I should knocked him out instead. I guess it's true when they say anger has no reason. Because of that incident I had a falling out with both brothers but it was all for the best. A year later the one who was my friend was arrested and lost his permit and guns for flashing a gun in a bar at a guy. The guy was an off duty cop!! LOSE THE FRIEND. You will have no regrets.
If you think about it Bozo had to pay $150+ to repair his gun but you guys are right. I should knocked him out instead. I guess it's true when they say anger has no reason. Because of that incident I had a falling out with both brothers but it was all for the best. A year later the one who was my friend was arrested and lost his permit and guns for flashing a gun in a bar at a guy. The guy was an off duty cop!! LOSE THE FRIEND. You will have no regrets.
Death from Afar
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A mate of mine is a guide. He was taking some highly excitable portugese guys out deer shooting. So they get in the truck, - about 2 hours by four wheel drive to where they are shooting- and the porto starts loading the magazine in the hotel car park! So, the guide politilly explains no, there are no deer around here, lets calm down. So, as they drive out of town, they see a deer farm, and the porto shoves his rifle THROUGH the shut landrover window and starts to load the magazine!
Friend don't let friends shoot loaded guns in house. If I have to dry fire a gun in the house, I take the gun apart and then put it back together, or if it is like the CZ 52, I can get a feel of the trigger without the slide on. Sure, room with him, just tell him no guns. If he was mature enough to handle a weapon responsibly, that NEVER would have happened. Stay away and just tell him he needs to be a little more responsible.
Mid-knight
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Used to keep a .410 breech in the cargo van for varmint as a teen, but when moving it once, the hammer snagged and snapped.... I've never been that careless since. If your friend isn't shaken by it, he's dangerous. If he is shaken up, he'll be a whole lot more cautious....I've never had a gun related mistake since then, 20 something years ago, and this is the first time I've told anyone 'bout it.
chemist308
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'It's all fun and games until someone loses an eye'
Speaking from the experience of someone who's held a compress over a person wounded by a shotgun: NO loaded guns in the home. There is no safe direction to point one of those damn things either--the bbs ricochet and go every direction.
On bolt action rifles, remove the bolt and store in lower drawer of gun cabinet.
Pump action shotguns: press the release lever and store with action open.
Break open models: store open.
Lever action and rolling block: action open.
Auto Handguns: Insert empty clip and store open, or clip separate and be in the habit of checking before handling.
Revolvers: Separate drum.
And if self defense is a real issue consider your area--is it time to relocate? Realistically how much time does it take to get a round in the chamber--5 seconds, maybe? Also consider this: how quickly do you think the cops will be at your door if you discharge a weapon and have to call 911 about it?--I lived just outside of town and was shocked to discover the answer was less than 30 seconds. Unless you're really in the sticks it doesn't take that long--though it can tend to seem a lot longer in the heat of a situation. And if you are really in the sticks you probably leave your doors unlocked like I do anyway.
There's no shame in getting your family out the back door while you dial 911 on a cordless phone--it may save a 15 year prison sentence. Some places even showing someone a gun gets you a couple years.
Speaking from the experience of someone who's held a compress over a person wounded by a shotgun: NO loaded guns in the home. There is no safe direction to point one of those damn things either--the bbs ricochet and go every direction.
On bolt action rifles, remove the bolt and store in lower drawer of gun cabinet.
Pump action shotguns: press the release lever and store with action open.
Break open models: store open.
Lever action and rolling block: action open.
Auto Handguns: Insert empty clip and store open, or clip separate and be in the habit of checking before handling.
Revolvers: Separate drum.
And if self defense is a real issue consider your area--is it time to relocate? Realistically how much time does it take to get a round in the chamber--5 seconds, maybe? Also consider this: how quickly do you think the cops will be at your door if you discharge a weapon and have to call 911 about it?--I lived just outside of town and was shocked to discover the answer was less than 30 seconds. Unless you're really in the sticks it doesn't take that long--though it can tend to seem a lot longer in the heat of a situation. And if you are really in the sticks you probably leave your doors unlocked like I do anyway.
There's no shame in getting your family out the back door while you dial 911 on a cordless phone--it may save a 15 year prison sentence. Some places even showing someone a gun gets you a couple years.
You don't want to room with someone who you think has a drinking problem. If you think it, it's probably true. Or at least, it's true enough for your tastes. And it will lead to interpersonal problems between you, and possibly other problems, including economic, landlord, legal...
-blackmind
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Are you really here arguing against the idea of keeping a gun loaded and ready for what it is intended for?
Wow.
So all our guns should be just so many paperweights around the home? Not even ONE should be kept loaded and ready for self defense?
This is the common refrain, the oversimplification of the century: "If you feel it is possible that you'll ever have to use your gun defensively in the home, you should be relocating to one of those magically safe places where crime can't possibly ever happen."
:barf:And your experiece makes the rule, huh?
I called the police about a brawl that involved over 8 young men on a main street in downtown West Palm Beach two weeks ago. The fight lasted over five minutes, more like ten, and it wasn't until ten minutes after the participants had gone away that the cops arrived in three cars.
If it's a true case of home invasion and self defense against same, then there is no 15 year prison sentence hanging over one's head. You are making strawman arguments, playing off as if family defense nets a person 15 years in the pen. What does your claim that "even showing someone a gun gets you a couple years" have to do with lawful self defense in one's residence?!
You simply come off as anti-gun and anti-self defense,
one of the left-brainers who believe that the police are the answer to all our problems.
-blackmind
Mid-knight
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Whoa, Blackmind! I think your going a bit hard on him! Just because he's more cautious, perhaps overly so, doesn't make him a "left-brainer", "anti-gun" or "anti-self defense". I agree with you about the use of a HD weapon. My HD weapon is always loaded, and I don't see much point to dissassembling a HD weapon. Might as well have a club. However, launching inflammatory statements at him helps no one. Besides, not all "left-brained" people are anti-gun, anti-self defense.
As for getting your family out of the back door: Smart. Getting them out of line of a firefight while covering their retreat with a shottie: Smarter.
Let's focus on what we do agree on, and not on what we disagree on, shall we?
As for getting your family out of the back door: Smart. Getting them out of line of a firefight while covering their retreat with a shottie: Smarter.
Let's focus on what we do agree on, and not on what we disagree on, shall we?
chemist308
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Look, I'm NOT anti-gun. I hunt, I go to the range. I'm just speaking from a bad experience with an attempted home invasion.
Fellow tried to come in and took off when I did my part. Problem was some sort of a malfunction when I went to break open. Gun went off and a family member I'd asked to stay upstairs was standing nearby. Blast ricochet straight up, but I only took 3 bbs--have no idea why I'm not dead. I spent the next minute holding a white t-shirt over the blood squirting leg of someone I love very much.
The hardest part of it was cleaning the dried blood pool the next day. Nightmares took about 2-3 months to stop.
I'm only sharing this in the hope I can prevent someone else from making a similar mistake.
Fellow tried to come in and took off when I did my part. Problem was some sort of a malfunction when I went to break open. Gun went off and a family member I'd asked to stay upstairs was standing nearby. Blast ricochet straight up, but I only took 3 bbs--have no idea why I'm not dead. I spent the next minute holding a white t-shirt over the blood squirting leg of someone I love very much.
The hardest part of it was cleaning the dried blood pool the next day. Nightmares took about 2-3 months to stop.
I'm only sharing this in the hope I can prevent someone else from making a similar mistake.
This is an issue that needs no rationalization. I've heard it said "life is short,death is long". A negligent discharge is a very sobering event and requires a hard and solemn look at what is going on with who is involved when it happens. It is the six ir so inches between our ears where trouble begins if we are careless. I pray that your friend has had an epiphany with this incident and uses good sense in the future. I hope you use good sense and rethink who you want for a roommate.