Must have given good advice at the lgs today
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I second a few of the posts here. I'm in NH as well, and if you're in the woods during "primitive" arms season, you'd better be holding a muzzle loading rifle. We can use 209 primers, scopes etc unlike some states during a primitive season but I've never heard of a center fire rifle being a primitive arm. Just shows laws and regs vary quite a bit from state to state.
The .35 Whelen is an excellent big game cartridge, and is a perfect choice for everywhere except somewhere you'll be taking extremely long range shots, which most shooters probably shouldn't be doing anyways without a lot of practice at such ranges. Very easy to resize the abundant .30/06 cases to use in the .35, or just buy all the brass you want and make your own. It's a forgiving case and bullet weight combo so many powders will work very nicely.
The .35 Whelen is an excellent big game cartridge, and is a perfect choice for everywhere except somewhere you'll be taking extremely long range shots, which most shooters probably shouldn't be doing anyways without a lot of practice at such ranges. Very easy to resize the abundant .30/06 cases to use in the .35, or just buy all the brass you want and make your own. It's a forgiving case and bullet weight combo so many powders will work very nicely.
Most hunting regulations are very similar and we can do the same during regular rifle season. We can hunt any regular rifle season with bow, crossbow, or muzzle loader here in Colorado as well. Our muzzle loader season isn't as restrictive as some, but definitely not as liberal as some other states.
Our main rules are no pelletized powder, no electronic ignition, no sabots only full bore bullets, and no optics unless your vision isn't correctable with glasses or contacts. Archery is pretty similar and crossbows and draw locks aren't allowed unless you can prove a disability. However, there are a lot of states that allow all of these things and it's all about trying to manage deer or other game animal numbers.
Just like my daughter took three deer in Oklahoma last month during rifle season. In OK if you hunted archery, primitive, rifle, and late doe season a person could get a total of six deer. Five antlerless and one antlered, and if I remember correctly LA's bag limits are quite a bit more liberal than that. CO only allows for one buck and one doe, but since all deer hunts are draw only it's very difficult to get two tags in the same game management unit. In CO you can only draw one tag per species, and after the draw they post a leftover list of tags that can be purchased OTC.
As far as getting loads down in speed the .45-70 probably has the most subsonic load data of them all simply because it's the oldest cartridge, the only issue is it has the heaviest bullets. Cast bullet data for all of them will get you a light recoiling load suitable for recoil sensitive shooters. If most shots are 200 yards or less I'd be perfectly happy with the .35 Remington in a single shot rifle not restricted to lever action safe bullets.
Our main rules are no pelletized powder, no electronic ignition, no sabots only full bore bullets, and no optics unless your vision isn't correctable with glasses or contacts. Archery is pretty similar and crossbows and draw locks aren't allowed unless you can prove a disability. However, there are a lot of states that allow all of these things and it's all about trying to manage deer or other game animal numbers.
Just like my daughter took three deer in Oklahoma last month during rifle season. In OK if you hunted archery, primitive, rifle, and late doe season a person could get a total of six deer. Five antlerless and one antlered, and if I remember correctly LA's bag limits are quite a bit more liberal than that. CO only allows for one buck and one doe, but since all deer hunts are draw only it's very difficult to get two tags in the same game management unit. In CO you can only draw one tag per species, and after the draw they post a leftover list of tags that can be purchased OTC.
As far as getting loads down in speed the .45-70 probably has the most subsonic load data of them all simply because it's the oldest cartridge, the only issue is it has the heaviest bullets. Cast bullet data for all of them will get you a light recoiling load suitable for recoil sensitive shooters. If most shots are 200 yards or less I'd be perfectly happy with the .35 Remington in a single shot rifle not restricted to lever action safe bullets.
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Boogershooter
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I hope other states start allowing themail use of modern single shot rifles n .35 caliber because I'm a huge fan of the 358 winchester. I do not reload myself but a good friend allows me to come to his place and load a few when time allows. I would love to see a push for ammo makers to start making more of the 358
reynolds357
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You can get 35 Whelen ammo pretty easily around here.
What brand single shots were they buying?
What brand single shots were they buying?
Boogershooter
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Cva and h&r handi rifles.
reynolds357
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That explains why the CVA rifles are always unavailable around here in .35 Whelen.
Boogershooter
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Every gun shop around here has atleast a dozen. The 444 is getting harder to find but the 35 and 45-70 are very very popular.
johnwilliamson062
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I can't seem to find a CVA single shot anywhere around me. I wanted to look at one. Seems like a great hunting rifle to me.
Boogershooter
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My wife, sister-n-law, and mother-n-law, all love theirs. I've heard some people say they don't get great accuracy but all of ours shoot very well.
Unlicensed Dremel
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So what did they buy - Encores or what? And what gun store stocks more than one Encore in .35 Whelen - interesting but odd.
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Oh, ok.
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Oh, ok.