Most Safety Violations in 15 minutes

Funding, budgets, $$$....

As programs are cut & funding is lowered, Id prepare for any local public ranges to either cut staff or scale back the budgeted hours/resources. :(
One large range about 45min from me is going through a major over-haul/upgrade.
The county government website says it won't reopen until approx Dec 2013.
Clyde
 
I am not so sure guys. It's easy to say he was being overly dramatic but remember the story has a beginning and it didn't start out well. Right off the bat the guy is pointing his gun in every direction but the proper one, you shouldn't forget that. Such a thing would make me prickly real quick. You act relaxed and professional with others who do the same. When you are with people who don't get the rules then behavior must change to suit.
 
People don't behave because you're loud and strange.

I don't play "teach the idiot" with gun safety. When he pointed it at me and said "it ain't loaded.", I'm gone. I'm not going to hope he won't shoot me if I yell the rules real loud.
 
There is yelling and there is yelling. This is the written word and it has it's limitations. I suppose the OP could have explained it better by saying "I called out range commands at a clear and unprovocative 46 decibels." And then we would all know that he was actually yelling at the guy. Why you have to assume that his "..hold your fire ... all clear" was over the top?
 
Lunger it really sounds to me like you did all you could. Some people don't want to listen or learn, and when their family or friends are nearby it makes them even more hard headed.

I've mostly shot at public ranges and over the years I have only seen a few safety violations so bad that I felt I had to say something. To those peoples credit they listened and all was good afterwards. Someday I'm sure I'll find someone like you did though and I'll do just what you did, leave.
 
Just speaking for myself.. I don't expect people at public ranges without a range officer to conduct themselves in any formal fashion. As far as "what would I do".. I would keep to myself and leave if others seemed dangerous.
 
lcpiper said:
There is yelling and there is yelling. This is the written word and it has it's limitations. I suppose the OP could have explained it better by saying "I called out range commands at a clear and unprovocative 46 decibels." And then we would all know that he was actually yelling at the guy. Why you have to assume that his "..hold your fire ... all clear" was over the top?
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I assume it's over the top because, one, there were only two people present. The other person is obviously oblivious, actively in violation and noncompliant. The only other person to "yell" to is... yourself.

Second, he said "Yell". I assume yell means yell. If I "said" something, I don't say I "yelled" it. If I "said" something, I don't expect an entire firing line (even an empty one) to hear it. The entire firing line was clearly intended to hear it, I assume "yelled" means "yelled".

Even if it were whispered, one guy is down range, he's not touching or clearing or anything else his guns. So, the range commands you're whispering are for... You?

It's strange and if someone did it, I'd be leaving. Maybe it's 100% normal where you are or where the OP is. If so, awesome. Do your thing. Around here, people WOULD think you were nuts.
 
(6) When more than one person is using the range, a range officer shall be designated.

Rule 6 posted on Pa game commission Ranges. Also listed on large easy to read signs are all the rules that were broken

I wasn't about to let this guy be range officer

Yelling or a loud clear voice a better way of saying it is necessary when ear protection is worn

I was not acting like a drill Sargent. If it came across like that in my OP that was not the case

He and I were not the only ones on the range. His wife and kid were there also with multiple firearms being handled

I am amazed that what you took away from my story that I had a handgun pointed at me.
A person walked out on a live range.Chambered a live round on a clear range in my direction

And I am out of line for following the rules
 
I don't play "teach the idiot" with gun safety. When he pointed it at me and said "it ain't loaded.", I'm gone. I'm not going to hope he won't shoot me if I yell the rules real loud
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I agree...

on a side note, I have never observed any overtly dangerous gun practices at my local public range and at the same time, I have never heard anyone shout commands. I totally agree that if someone is acting dangerously, I am going to simply leave.
 
I think you handled it better than I would have. I would have been less than polite about telling him about muzzle control.
I've never shot on a public range, sounds like I never will.
 
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