Mossberg 500 tactical or 590?

i have a 500 that i assembled for less than $200

$100 for the gun, $80 for the 18.5" barrel, $15 for the pistol grip and forend respectively

the safety IS kind of hard to get to without changing my grip, but it doesn't pose a problem in my opinion, if you're only using it for HD that is

i feel like the safety should be turned off the instant you anticipate using your weapon, meaning as soon as i hear the noise in my house the safety is turned off

i've never shot a 590A1, but it seems to me that all of the 'pluses' it has don't really apply to me, especially if they're twice the price
 
I've never had an 870 jam on me while "bird hunting" but i have had 500's jam using the same shells, plus i hate the cheap sloppy action of mossbergs;)
 
The 590A1 is the only think keeping me from a BENELLI SUPERNOVA TACTICAL - let the rdcord reflect i didnt mean to capitalize it, it happened to be cap lock and i dint want to retype cause of laziness lol.

Anyway I bought a Benelli Supernova 'tactical turkey' on St Patrick's Day 2010, it was all black, 24" , red fiber optic sight, SteadyGrip pistol grip. I bought it and figured I would Make it into the Tactical I wanted, I got the $600+ gun for like $329- such a great deal.

then I found out online AND from Benelli direct, a barrel 18.5" was gonna be like $500-$550... plus then I'd need to mount a rail on the receiver and get the rear aperature. LOL.. $500- $550 for the BARREL, and it was like $479 for the NEW WHOLE BEN SNT *GUN*! I just couldn't do the 24" turkey gun, way to big for me for HD/combat, i'm 5'8" and right now 147lbs from way too much sweets, I'm like 138lbs-140lbs trim. The gun was TOO BIG and I'm not a hunter... but let me say, the Benelli Supernova is an amazing AWESOME platform- so sexay so sweet so smoove. So I've REALLY wanted a Supernova Tactical, Ghost Ring Sights (Get the tritium inserts for Ghost Ring Night Sights,) a Nordic +2 extension, and a nice sling mount under that mag extension for a nice real nice combat sling- just make that SNT into a great combat shotgun that ideally, I could carry while carrying my AR. I am thinking wistfully about SHTF, and carrying the AR into the SHTF world in my neighborhood on hood protection 'ops' lol, and bhaving my shotgun backup. Like the point man has on Tears of the Sun, he carried an M4 and an 870? Tactical I believe. perfect combination IMHO.

ANYWAY lol, I LOVE The 590A1 but i MIGHT love the Benelli Supernova more, I can only afford one more $500-$600 combat shotgun- but I do believe in having a pump shotgun to back up the autoloading/semi. Even tho Ii'm lucky in that, my M930SPX has been ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY 100% reliable- even with a new extension for the magazine and new follower and new recoil pad on the stock. Perfec.t
 
Any Mossberg is a great shotgun. Even the budget Maverick line.
For fadetoblack: I have seen more 870's over the years with stuck shells than I ever have Mossbergs. And I have to qualify with all my service weapons every three months. So that's adds up to a bunch of range time over the last 12 years. Not to mention the hunting I have done over the last 30 years.
 
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I love my 590 Special Purpose! I love the 870 too but sometimes I'd get shells stuck between the shell lifter and mag tube so that's the main reason I switched to a Mossberg 590 for home defense because the lifter sits flush with the bolt and I can just drop shells into the mag tube. I know a bayonet isn't really practical for anything but I got one anyway! :D
 
Is that the 590A1 SPX??

I got the 930 SPX but i am seriously pondering the 590A1SPX... I want a 590A1 real bad but also want a Benelli Supernova Tactical real bad too, cant do both.
 
It's a Mossberg 590 Special Purpose, it doesn't have the thick barrel like the 590A1. That doesn't matter to me though because it's still a great shotgun. I think the bayonet makes the gun look very intimidating!
 
I think that for most people the 590, which is the souped up 500 and not the mil-spec 590A1, is the best bet for most shooters.

It has the heat shield, which is a practical addition to a 500, and the bayonet lug, which is not really practical at all but provides some fun if one wants. Putting a heat shield on a 590A1 means going aftermarket and DIY.

The 590A1 is HEAVY. The thick walled barrel offers no particular advantage to the civilian shooter. As noted, it was to make the barrel more resistant to accidental shipboard dinging, where one might KERRANG!!! the thing off of a watertight door or its opening whilst running full speed. The 590 can use any barrel that fits a 500. It remains lighter and handier than the 590A1 when fitted with a sidesaddle, a lighted forearm, or other added weight.

The 590 is blued rather than parkerized. Whether that is an advantage is a matter of taste.

To my mind, the only reason to get a 590A1 are to get the 8+1 capacity of the 20" gun or to get the ghost rings for an affordable amount. The sights alone are a good deal of the markup difference if the price to acquire them separately is a reliable indicator. I only see a GRS setup as desirable for a longer range slug shot capability, again something that a sailor or a Marine might have more call for than any civilian buyer.
 
spyderdude.......very nice "590"! :eek:

I have to axe, where'd you get the bayonet and how much?

Are there any other guns that have the BAYONET MOUNT?
Or if not, does somebody make a bayonet mount to put on a shotgun?

(YES.....I WANT a bayonet......so what!?!):cool:
 
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Can't speak to your other question, but an AUTHENTIC M-9 like the one pictured, or Marine Corps bayonet, (the USMC uses one that is very much like a Ka-Bar knife these days), are pick your poison for about $100.00+ shipping from an internet retailer like Knife Center of the Internet.

You can get knock off M-9 bayos for about half that if you don't mind using/relying upon Chinese mystery blade steel. The real deals are not made out of cheap stainless steel.

M-9 Bayonet by Ontario Knife Co.

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USMC Bayonet by Ontario Knife Co.

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Thanks Gats!

I was in the ARMY 45 years ago and haven't handled a bayonet since, but the USMC bayonet by ONTARIO KNIFE will fit the Mossberg?

Are bayonet "mounts" the same, so all bayonets have the same "mount"?......
or am I delusional?
 
The Mossberg bayo mount is identical to the current M-16 family's mount, (M-7, M-9, the USMC model). They can mount any bayonet that the service rifle with a mount can. I haven't tried it personally, but the USMC bayo should work just fine.
 
Bayonets look cool on shotguns,but....

Check your Zero.

Mount bayonet.

Pitchfork something like a hay bale.

You have had bayonet training,right?

Recheck Zero.

Cuss.

The barrel metal on shotguns is too thin to withstand the forces generated by using a bayonet as it is intended to be used. Same thing happened in Nam with the early M-16s with much thicker barrel walls.

If it's strictly for looks, have at it. But utility's very limited....
 
The OKC S3 Marine Fighting Bayonet grip is about 1/16" longer than the M-9. So is the Army's Tanto bladed version. They will fit rifles. They may NOT fit shotguns quite as well -- you are warned.

The M-9 is, in fact, cheap 420 stainless steel and won't hold an edge. It is meant more as a corrosion-resistant sharp pry bar only without a full tang. If you want decent steel, as in a knife, just like it get the 1095 carbon steel bladed M-10 -- it'll be at least moderately useful as a knife but you'll have to maintain it a bit more.

Good luck.
 
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This is my standard load out for HD, currently, I need and am saving for an Optic, EoTech. It covers everything I need.



8- 2-3/4 #8s in the tube
4- 2-3/4 4 Bucks
1- Door Breacher
1- OKC "Issued" Bayonet
1- Knoxx Recoil Reducing stock

I have owned a Win 1300 Defender, Mav 88, no problems at all and fired many a 870 and 500 without any gripes but the 590A1 is a beast and will take more abuse. I will never bash any of the other good pump scatter guns but the 590A1... is another level of durable.
 

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Dave, to answer your question, yes, I had Bayonet Training at Sand Hill, Ft Benning, Georgia, and Advanced Infantry Training (AIT) in Germany, as well as
"engagement" in SE Asia in '66-'67 with both the M14 and M16. ;)

There's no doubt in my mind that I could still use a bayonet more physically proficient than most (even at my age), as well as being "mentally" prepared for such contact.

Didn't mean to get off topic, I'm just answering your question. :)
If somebody wants a bayonet on their HD weapon, I say go for it.
Staring at a barrel is intimidating, but not as scary as staring at a 10" blade in your face! :cool:
 
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