mosin cut barrel any noticeable difference?
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Id say your better off getting a M44. youll probably pay as much as an average m44. What with the barrel cut, recrown, sight mount and the time to rezero it, plus a sight drift if you dont already have one... Not to mention the odds of your elevation being close after shortening your sight radius are small...
I had one of mine taken back to 22 inches as part of sporterizing it.
In the new Boyds stock, perceived recoil is handled much more efficiently & with a rubber buttpad.
Lighter weight, but recoil is not objectionable.
Sight radius in my case was not an issue, they were removed in favor of a scope. But you would have that issue if you re-mounted some sort of front sight.
And, when I chronographed three loads through it, no real loss in velocity over a longer barrel.
Can't explain it, just mentioning it.
I wouldn't bother to shorten a Mosin's barrel & leave any of the military wood on it, but in making one into a sporter with glass, there's no overriding reason to leave the barrel that long, in my opinion.
Denis
In the new Boyds stock, perceived recoil is handled much more efficiently & with a rubber buttpad.
Lighter weight, but recoil is not objectionable.
Sight radius in my case was not an issue, they were removed in favor of a scope. But you would have that issue if you re-mounted some sort of front sight.
And, when I chronographed three loads through it, no real loss in velocity over a longer barrel.
Can't explain it, just mentioning it.
I wouldn't bother to shorten a Mosin's barrel & leave any of the military wood on it, but in making one into a sporter with glass, there's no overriding reason to leave the barrel that long, in my opinion.
Denis
ChaperallCat
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well youll have to buy alot of ammunition. from various forums, the longer barreled ones shooter certain bullet weights better then the the shorter carbines do. but hey, your gun.
tahunua001
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a couple pros and cons I can think of off the top of my head.
pros
1. less muzzle weight
2. would require recrown that would improve accuracy.
3. shortens the rifle to make it more maneuverable
cons
1. less weight at that muzzle means more upward recoil impulse
2. shorter barrel lowers bullet velocity
3. shorter barrel means the muzzle blast is closer to your face and has more chance of a fireball.
for your purposes I think that cutting the barrel to a respectable length of 24 or 25 inches wouldn't hinder it too much while giving and since you would probably plan to put that flash hider back on then the muzzle weight/blast would probably be not more noticeable than a factory length mosin.
pros
1. less muzzle weight
2. would require recrown that would improve accuracy.
3. shortens the rifle to make it more maneuverable
cons
1. less weight at that muzzle means more upward recoil impulse
2. shorter barrel lowers bullet velocity
3. shorter barrel means the muzzle blast is closer to your face and has more chance of a fireball.
for your purposes I think that cutting the barrel to a respectable length of 24 or 25 inches wouldn't hinder it too much while giving and since you would probably plan to put that flash hider back on then the muzzle weight/blast would probably be not more noticeable than a factory length mosin.
As I said-
Recoil in a better stock is not noticeably different after shortening.
Velocities were not materially affected.
In firing two commercials & one surplus load through my 22-incher, I see no fireball in daylight.
Have not fired it at night, but 22 inches is a good working barrel length & you'd be getting some flash & dazzle at night in most mid-bore calibers through a 22-incher.
I noticed no muzzle "blast" closer to my face.
No more than a .30-06 I have with a 17-inch barrel. Which is also none.
Denis
Recoil in a better stock is not noticeably different after shortening.
Velocities were not materially affected.
In firing two commercials & one surplus load through my 22-incher, I see no fireball in daylight.
Have not fired it at night, but 22 inches is a good working barrel length & you'd be getting some flash & dazzle at night in most mid-bore calibers through a 22-incher.
I noticed no muzzle "blast" closer to my face.
No more than a .30-06 I have with a 17-inch barrel. Which is also none.
Denis
I don't know the propellant formulation for the surplus ammo, which no doubt varies. But the powder charge must be such that when shot from shorter barrels like the carbines there's a bunch of unburned powder exiting the muzzle to create the so-called "fireball".
But far as handloads are concerned, it's very close to a .308 round- in fact, my MN accuracy load is 43.5 of Varget- identical to my .308 Savage load, and for the identical bullet (well- 174 grains compared to 175) . Plenty of .308's are shot from carbine length barrels- not to mention even SBR's.
But far as handloads are concerned, it's very close to a .308 round- in fact, my MN accuracy load is 43.5 of Varget- identical to my .308 Savage load, and for the identical bullet (well- 174 grains compared to 175) . Plenty of .308's are shot from carbine length barrels- not to mention even SBR's.
If I were going to cut down a Nagant, I'd probably make it more handy than taking off 8 inches of barrel. How about taking more like 20inches off and making it an Obrez? 
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i wasn't planning to cut mine, i was just curious, and this will make a good resource for those who are thinking about it.
personally i like the long barrel on my mosin as is, but its just another style for the sporterizing, different need and purpose is all.
and i can say even with the boyds stock does improve groups, the recoil on the featherweight however is not painful but it is more than the original stock. a slip on recoil helps this, as i got mine before they offered the custom modification and the better recoil pad
personally i like the long barrel on my mosin as is, but its just another style for the sporterizing, different need and purpose is all.
and i can say even with the boyds stock does improve groups, the recoil on the featherweight however is not painful but it is more than the original stock. a slip on recoil helps this, as i got mine before they offered the custom modification and the better recoil pad