troy_mclure
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on larger dogs/animals, a .22 pistol to the base of the spine, facing in towards the brain.
on small dogs/cats a fillet knife to the same spot.
on small dogs/cats a fillet knife to the same spot.
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Living in areas where cities blend together into a metroplex means it's hard to find a place - a good place - to take your animal for the last time.
In our cases, one Doberman we had for six years had a spinal tumor and the vet never let him wake up after they found it impossible to remove. I was about 18 and cried my eyes out over it. The other Dobie lived to 14 years, but her kidneys were failing. Once that was determined at the vet's office, with her almost blind and going deaf, we did the right thing to ease her suffering. Some nights I pray there is a heaven for our pets to enjoy.
Each pet I have had "put down", with the one exception above, I've been there to hold them and talk to them, feeling their life slip away from my arms. I don't care who you are or your life's story. Even as you know you're releasing them from pain, if you don't struggle to hold back the tears, you shouldn't get another animal.
It's one thing for the animal to be put down in an operating theatre when it's necessary. But I would never elect to "wait outside" while it was done. That's just too cowardly in my opinion.
In our cases, one Doberman we had for six years had a spinal tumor and the vet never let him wake up after they found it impossible to remove. I was about 18 and cried my eyes out over it. The other Dobie lived to 14 years, but her kidneys were failing. Once that was determined at the vet's office, with her almost blind and going deaf, we did the right thing to ease her suffering. Some nights I pray there is a heaven for our pets to enjoy.
Each pet I have had "put down", with the one exception above, I've been there to hold them and talk to them, feeling their life slip away from my arms. I don't care who you are or your life's story. Even as you know you're releasing them from pain, if you don't struggle to hold back the tears, you shouldn't get another animal.
It's one thing for the animal to be put down in an operating theatre when it's necessary. But I would never elect to "wait outside" while it was done. That's just too cowardly in my opinion.
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Yeah, city folks don't have much of a choice. Gotta remember that.
Each pet I have had "put down", with the one exception above, I've been there to hold them and talk to them, feeling their life slip away from my arms. I don't care who you are or your life's story. Even as you know you're releasing them from pain, if you don't struggle to hold back the tears, you shouldn't get another animal.
It's one thing for the animal to be put down in an operating theatre when it's necessary. But I would never elect to "wait outside" while it was done. That's just too cowardly in my opinion.
I agree, and always hold my dog for the vet to euthanize. But I've heard that nowadays, there are quite a few vets who have a policy of not allowing owners to stay with their own dog during euthanasia or even hold their own dog for treatment: some sort of "safety" or insurance concern, supposedly. No way would I go to such a vet.
Now for some this may sound harsh but follow me here. If you really love one of your animals, say a cat, and that cat has come to the point where it is suffering with no real hope for recovery what do you do? Do you load that cat up and carry it to the vet so the vet can give it a shot or do you do it.
Where I grew up (farm country) you handled that sort of stuff yourself. Where I live right now you'd be up on charges so fast it'd make your head spin (to stay legal you have to use a vet...and pay the $$$)
Interestingly enough I remember the first injured animal I ever had to put down (when I was pretty young). A chipmunk that had fallen from a tree and broken it's back. It took me three tries to be able to pull the trigger and put a BB in it's head and I was absolutely heartsick for DAYS but at the same time I couldn't leave it there thrashing about and suffering.
Later on I learned how to separate myself some so that I could do the job that needed doing but Great Maker that's a hard lesson to learn!
I'll take a pet to a vet to be put down suspecting that the chance of some unnecessary suffering is reduced.
Don't count on it. I've "put down" animals with the bluejuice ("Fatal Plus"), and they frequently seem to suffer quite a bit. Cats in particular. Dogs get the juice IV, and what they go through is usually limited to spasms and loss of bowel/bladder control as they lose consciousness. The SOP for cat killin' is to inject the juice into their abdomen (I guess the plethora of small veins and whatnot around the organs carries the poison around relatively quickly), but that can go ugly in a hurry. If the juice gets injected into the stomach or one of the other areas of slow-distribution, that critter is in for many minutes of terrible pain before death. You will see them shaking and moaning and in general looking like they are not enjoying the process at all.
A gunshot to the head or strike with a shovel is much more humane, if a bit messier. The reason they use the juice is for the comfort of the humans watching, not the comfort of the animal.
I would much rather be offed with a shot or strike to the head than that damn deathjuice. Faster, less pain, etc...
I've had gnarly head injuries before. Everything goes white and you hear a 20KHz tone (eeeeeeeeeeeeee). No pain. That is much preferrable to roiling pain as your guts get scrambled and shut down, going into spasms and crapping yourself as the vile toxin slowly does its work.
I shot an old sheepdog my wife had years ago... to put it out of it's misery. 3rd worst mistake of my life. I lost my very best friend in the world last year about this time. She was an old (17 yr) lab and I had her put down after considerable talking to the vet and I'm tearing up a little right now thinking about it.
Unless it's a matter of life or death I would never shoot a dog. It's been my experience with dogs that they are better friends and certainly more faithful than any human I've ever known.
Unless it's a matter of life or death I would never shoot a dog. It's been my experience with dogs that they are better friends and certainly more faithful than any human I've ever known.
B Lahey, maybe you need a differnet vet. I took my wife's cat a few weeks ago. He had not eaten in a week and after fighting an auto immune disorder for 15 years was finally at the end. He gave the animal a shot in back leg and the cat was dead in a couple of seconds. No noise, no struggle, no nothing. Shoot one in the head and see what kind of involuntary muscle spasms go on and for how long.
But, I repsect your choice and am not going to take some high road one way or another in a difficult situation.
But, I repsect your choice and am not going to take some high road one way or another in a difficult situation.
Art Eatman
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We've sorta gone wanderin' with this one. It's pretty much an individual's views, for one thing, and circumstances beyond one's control for another. Let's give it a rest.
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