More Central Park Fallout

Time for a rant mode:

Knowing something about the aftermath of sexual assault - I would say, you can criticize the victim for not having tactual awareness. But I would rather blame the society who lets this happen and the police
who are %($*%)$$)

Next, if you in your post, called the victims
a perjorative name, you (#($*$

Thank you.
 
As of this afternoon the number of victims who have reported being assaulted to the police has reached 28.The assaults took place over a period of one hour while the police did nothing. However, the mayor says the officers responsible will be severly disciplined. Perhaps his change of heart was caused by the news that two of the vitims have filed $five millon dollar lawsuits against the city of New York.
 
I'm glad to hear the victims have filed suit against the city. It'll be great when they realize the police have no responsibility for their safety. Hopefully this will get a lot of press, and a few light bulbs will go off in peoples' minds on the right of self defense and RKBA.
 
For the police this thing is a political nightmare. If they did intervene they'd have had Jesse Babbling Jackson, Reverend Al What'sisname, and self-proclaimed saviors of Puerto Ricans shrieking and gibbering about police brutality, racism, oppression, ad infinitum, ad nauseum. As it is, they'll have to deal with lawsuits and municipal supervisors.

Damned if you do and damned if you don't.

Can you imagine what would've happened had one of the victims shot one or more of her assailants?



[This message has been edited by Munro Williams (edited June 16, 2000).]
 
Ok, so I did deserve that slap on the wrist(ahem, Erik, Glenn E) for calling her a moron. :o All I meant was that I thought she could have been a bit more aware of her surroundings, given that she was in Central Park.

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"Pray as if your life depends on God, Prepare as if it all depends on you..." -Texas Preacher
 
And remember, You dont need a gun, the police will protect you.

I also believe in the Easter Bunny, The Tooth Fairy and Santy Claus!
 
"Under the laws listed by simonov jr listed for NY at http://www.thefiringline.com:8080/forums/showthread.php?threadid=27403, there was more than ample justification for a 3rd party to intercede, with force, and break it up. But no one did.

Why? They were conditioned to “let the police handle it”? Not my problem syndrome? They were waiting for something really bad to happen? They were scared? They were enjoying it?"

This brings up a thought provoking subject. Why do we as a society let these things happen? I remember attending a Thunder Ranch class where Clint Smith related the story of the Luby's massacre in Texas. He said society would have been better served if instead of hiding under tables everyone in the restaurant would have stood up and thrown their plates at the gunmen. My theory is they happen because the predators have no fear of a violent response. It doesn't have to be with guns. If some folks could have picked up sticks, clubs, rocks, whatever and forced the mob away from the women who were being attacked, we would have been better off. Am I asking too much of the sheeple?

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"Every normal man must be tempted, at times to spit on his hands,hoist the black flag and begin slitting throats." H.L. Mencken
 
BillX,

A version of the prisoner’s dilemma. The decision matrix (yes, I used to be a management consultant, but I’m feeling much better now) – On one axis to act or not to act, the other axis will I act alone, or will the group act with me. In terms of rewards, the best result is to act and the group acts with. The second best, to not act, but have the group do all the work. The worst, to act alone. Cost benefit analysis will usually lead to paralysis.

However, I hold the true test of a person is not doing the right thing when it is safe. It is doing the right thing at great risk to one’s self. And with that, I repeat, those who witnessed and did nothing should hang their heads in shame.

Marty
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Munro Williams:
Can you imagine what would've happened had one of the victims shot one or more of her assailants?[/quote]

Yes, one or more assailants would have died, if her aim was good enough. :)

Being NYC, she would have been hauled off to jail for violating the Sullivan Law, while the molesters vanished in the crowd.

Granted, the NYPD balled this one up badly, but let's not forget who the real bad guys are, the gang of clowns who went around abusing innocent tourists.
 
"Granted, the NYPD balled this one up badly, but let's not forget who the real bad guys are,..."

.. the sheeple who elected the NY officials in the first place.

CMOS

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NRA? Good. Now join the GOA!

The NRA is our shield, the GOA will be our sword.
 
Being an ex-NY'er, I'm with CMOS on this.

Unfortunately, NYers have been convinced that the only solution to self-defense is more and tougbher police (who then abuse power).

This is the story from the GOP. They don't support local RKBA.

In a complex situation, there are more than one villian.

This is a situation where there are germs and doctors who withhold treatment that is available.

Both are to blame.
 
It is because of stuff like this that I don't live in NYC any longer. The victims have my sympathy and the police officials my scorn. In NYC you can get into more trouble defending yourself than the criminal who attacks you. And as others have said here it is disgusting that SOME segments of society have reached such a degenerated level...I agreee the police have a 'damned if you do, damned if you don't' dilemma. But it would be better have chosen the 'damned-doing' course of action.
 
Have you guys ever contemplated that acceptance that this woman kinda brought it upon herself is part of the problem? In a lawful society she should have been able to walk through the park without fear of molestation!

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"Quemadmoeum gladius neminem occidit, occidentis telum est."
("A sword is never a killer, it's a tool in the killer's hands.") -
Lucius Annaeus Seneca "the Younger" (ca. 4 BC-65 AD).
 
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