More BATF BS

Man o man, is Rich right about this:

3) It's a federal agency, like the IRS: Go to three different offices; you may well get four differing opinions, none of which will be binding.
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Try calling the IRS with an Estate tax question. Here's what will happen:

First, you'll be transferred. To someone who knows about individual income taxes. Then you'll be transferred again, to someone else who may know the question, but who wants you to talk to another person. After being transferred to the other person, you'll be informed that you should never have been transferred, because none of the people you've spoken to know anything about Estate taxes. At this point, you'll be frustrated, especially because you just want to pay the government money. How hard is it to pay the government money? Very, because now you just got handed off to another person. Then, while waiting on hold, you'll be disconnected. Then you'll get mad, throw a book at the wall of your office, consider not paying anything to anyone, and then....

Call a lawyer who has been practicing tax law for 25 years, get the answer, pay the $225 per hour, have him prepare the forms, and send in the darn check. They'll cash it.

Welcome to working with the IRS. :rolleyes:
 
Err... Guys, welcome to civil disobediance 101... You may take your seats...

The object is to gum up the ATF about this situation.

Now, go down to your local office (do not call or write) and tell 'em that you wanna do something to one of your toys which will increase the value. You wanna make sure that's okay with 'em, and that it's okay in writing.

If you're there in person, hey, you're there... You're gonna get to waste at least an hour or so of their time... Granted, we're wasting yours too, but hey, civil disobedience can be a hobby...

If 10,000 gun nuts visited their local F-troop offices, and each took one hour, well...
 
If 10,000 gun nuts visited their local F-troop offices, and each took one hour, well...
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....well, Congress would have to increase BATF's budget next year. ;)

That's just the way these things work....it's hardly as though BATF is gonna go "out of business" as a result.
Rich
 
Rich, it's a bureaucracy. Screw up their day.

That's what really hurts 'em...
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No, it doesn't. What it does is increase their "customers served" numbers, and gives them factual evidence when they go to Congress and request additional funds to support the growing demand for ATFE's services and assistance.

Screwing up their day works when you are dealing with a profit based organization or one with limited resources. It doesn't work for a federal agency.
 
At the same time, I don't think we would have gotten a better BATF under either Gore or Kerry...
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Bogie - I didn't suggest that we would have gotten a better one under either Gore or Kerry.

I simply stated the obvious - that I expected more, and I don't believe they have delivered.
 
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Rich, it's a bureaucracy. Screw up their day.

That's what really hurts 'em...

No, it doesn't. What it does is increase their "customers served" numbers, and gives them factual evidence when they go to Congress and request additional funds to support the growing demand for ATFE's services and assistance.

Screwing up their day works when you are dealing with a profit based organization or one with limited resources. It doesn't work for a federal agency.
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+1
I can hear it now, "Mr Congressman we served 10,000 more people this year than last year, please increase our budget so we can now make house calls. For their own good we don't want these poor 10,000 people to have to come see us with anymore evil AK47 modification related matters."
 
another case of a outfit getting to big for their own shoes A congressional hearing should be done on abuse of funding towards this rogue branch of government. Investigation needs to be done now on these guys before it becomes entirely too late.
 
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