Modern M1 Carbine

M1 carbine

The .30 carbine is not a pistol round. It has considerably more velocity and kinetic energy than almost all pistol rounds, particularly at ranges over 50 yards. In my experience, my CMP 1944 M1 carbine is quite accurate out to 150 yds or more. It was the first firearm to be designed as a personal defense weapon as a pistol replacement and performed admirably in that role. It was not designed to be a combat long arm, although it was successfully used as one in many instances. Probably the most appropriate comparison today is the Ruger Mini 14 or Mini 30, although they are likely to be found not as accurate as a good quality M1 carbine. The carbine is actually an excellent weapon for its intended use.
 
DocTH said
" The .30 carbine is not a pistol round. It has considerably more velocity and kinetic energy than almost all pistol rounds, particularly at ranges over 50 yards. In my experience, my CMP 1944 M1 carbine is quite accurate out to 150 yds or more. It was the first firearm to be designed as a personal defense weapon as a pistol replacement and performed admirably in that role. It was not designed to be a combat long arm, although it was successfully used as one in many instances. Probably the most appropriate comparison today is the Ruger Mini 14 or Mini 30, although they are likely to be found not as accurate as a good quality M1 carbine. The carbine is actually an excellent weapon for its intended use."

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Nothing wrong with the M1 carbine. It is light, compact, accurate enough for what it was designed to do, and durable. All in all a good rifle for its intended purpose. They are pleasant and a lot of fun to shoot. The cartridge works extremely well in a pistol. The only one that I know of that chambers the round in a pistol is Ruger. The pistol that I have is very accurate and definately outperforms the 9mm (blackhawk 30 carb vs blackhawk 38/357 w 9mm cyl.).
 
Sc928porrsche said:
"The only one that I know of that chambers the round in a pistol is Ruger."

USFA has or recently had a WWII commemorative .30 Carbine-caliber'd single action along the lines of--actually a special chambering in--a premium version their well known SAA-patterned revolver.
 
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"...an Iver Johnson Plainfield..." IJ Plainfields aren't the same as a real Plainfield Machine Co. Carbine. A PMC made Carbine is better. Still needs the right ammo. Mine will shoot circles around any standard Mini-14/30 with my handloads.
"...Auto Ordnance..." Way over priced for a reproduction.
"...16 inch barrel..." Carbines have 18" barrels unless Bubba has been at it.
"...did not care for it at all..." Why? Too heavy? No battle rifle I've ever shot is quite like an M1 Rifle. Not even the FN C1A1(Canadian version of the FAL) the Queen paid me to shoot regularly. Has to be a good one with a decent barrel and using good ammo.
"...the carbine was intended to be of "pistol power"..." No. It was developed because it's far easier to train a non-shooter(the idea that U.S. W.W. II draftees or volunteers were shooters is a myth. Most had never seen a rifle prior to being called up. Just like now.)to use a rifle than it is a handgun. It also gave far more range.
"...less powerful than the Soviet x 39..." Yep. However, the SKS and AK were designed to be issued to illiterate conscripts that could be trained to use 'em in as little time as possible. Neither was designed for great accuracy. Mind you, an SKS may be an option for Drummer101.
 
little heads up. Russia had a higher literacy rate than the USA for quite some time (it may still be higher but I am not certain)


As for the M1 Carbine. I have yet to find anything similer in this day and age less these new 7.25x25 rifles that are coming on the market
 
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