Model 12 made in 1960

Don'tkillbill

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This my model 12 made in the 1960 1897XXX serial number

Its a nice looking gun and best of all its a takedown.

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Got a Model 12 last year at an auction cheap. Cheap because it has a repair on the barrel made with a weld. Didn't trust it enough to shoot it but I did fine a replacement barrel on gunbroker.com. I ended up getting one Model 12 for about the price of two. Nice piece though.

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The Model 12 is one of the shotguns allowed in Wild Bunch Action Shooting. They are very nice and appear to be a little more durable than the 1897.
 
The perfect repeater

Find a low mileage model 12, be happy for a long long time.

Do your homework with regard to finding a good one, loads of resources on the web to do so.

There are a ton of used Model 12s on the market. Winchester made over 2 million of them. Some are cheap, and some are stupid expensive. Not every Model 12 is "collectible"

A 1950's or 1960's plain jane Model 12 that has not been shot much will last at least a couple of lifetimes for the average shotgunner.

In fact as above with 26-28" barrel and a poly choke could be a guys only shotgun.
 
Harry as usual you are the man! Nice shotgun sir!

Is it hard to switch barrels? LIke I said I want a 20 " for shooting things at the range. We have a shoot every year and might do it every month shooting steel with our shotguns after we shoot PPC. A revolver and a model 12 I need mirror glass and could be in a squad car on CHIPS.
 
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Awesomeness! I just inherited my grandfather's Model 12 (1959 from what I could tell). It's an extremely durable and intuitive model, and I also love the ability to break it down for smaller storage options. I've seen these things in gun stores selling from $150 to $600 depending on the year and the condition. Of course, I'm not selling mine ever. I plan to pass it down to many more generations.
 
I have a model 12 as well, I have had it for 52 years, my brother in law bought it for me brand new from Dick Fisher's Sporting Goods. I believe he paid $120.00 back then. I love it and still do after all these years it is my favorite shotgun.
 
Dad's Model 12. 16 gauge, Bishop stock, poly choke. Made in 1958.

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My son owns it now, part of his inheritance. Each of my sons got one of Dad's guns.
 
My screen name should say it all :)

I have a 1958 that was converted (by a previous owner) into a "riot" configuration, barrel cut off at 20".

Smooth. As. Silk.

Just a stunning shotgun, a coveted piece of engineering and craftsmanship. They really don't "make em' like they used to". I adore mine, it's about due for a reblueing as some of the metal around the magazine base is in the white and developing a rust patina. I wouldn't trade mine for anything. Great gun.
 
Oh yeah they do. Classic. Classic. Classic.

The ol' babe serves as primary HD for me loaded with no. 1 buckshot. It worked very well for those brave souls on Iwo, Okinawa, and so many other blood stained islands in the pacific campaign.

It sure as hell works for me. You can keep you KSG and UTS-15 and whatever tactical tupperware 12 gauge you can draw up on your CAD program.

I will keep my Winchester Model 12.

You can come and take it if you please, but bring a shovel to dig through all the smoking spent hulls. And also bring lots, and lots, of body bags for anyone who helps you.
 
The model 12 is one of the all time great pump shotguns. Not as slick feeling as the later designed twin action bar pumps, it is nevertheless, hell for stout, works reliably and dependably in the worst conditions and has a long proven history.

A couple of things you need to know about the Model 12, first, never, ever shoot steel shot in a factory original barrel!!!!!!

Second, most model 12s do NOT have a disconnector. (only the last production versions have them, so I've heard. I know for a fact that the early guns do not. What this means is that if you are holding the trigger back when you close the gun, it WILL FIRE!!!

Third, you have to give the forend a little push forward, after firing, to get the action to unlock. Usually, holding the forend firmly during recoil takes care of this. But if not, just push forward, then back to open the action after firing.

Fourth, expect the gun to pattern extra tightly with regular modern ammunition. Model 12s were choked to provide the rated pattern percentages with the old style shotgun shells. Roll crimp paper shells with card wads over the shot, and fiber wads underneath. No shot cup. Modern plastic shells with their star crimps and shot cups produce much tighter patterns than the older type shells, so less choke is needed in the barrel to get the needed percentage, which means the old guns have tighter bores than guns made today.

My Grandfather's rule of thumb for checking a full choke 12ga was to balance a dime in the muzzle. If the dime didn't fall through, the gun was choked tight enough to give full choke patterns. Put a dime in the muzzle of any modern full choke gun, and watch it fall right through.

This tighter bore constriction than what is used today means that you should never, ever, shoot steel shot through the gun. A bulged barrel is very likely if you do!

Is it hard to switch barrels? LIke I said I want a 20 " for shooting things at the range.

It is a job for a qualified gunsmith to switch the barrel. The barrel is screwed into the barrel extension, which attached to the receiver with an interrupted thread.

Changing the barrel assembly (everything in front of the receiver) is fairly simple.

First, push the large pin at the end of the magazine tube out (this pin is captive, does not come all the way out). Then, using the large pin as a lever, rotate the magazine tube 1/4 turn, and pull it forward. (note that on guns where it isn't tightened correctly the barrel clamp may come loose. if it does, its not a big deal, we'll put it back in place and tighten the screw when we put the gun back together)

slide the forend forward until the action bar clears the receiver extension, then rotate the receiver extension 1/4 turn and remover it. The gun is now broken down for storage. Assemble in reverse order.

On a gun in good shape, it only takes a few seconds to break it down. Putting it back together takes a few seconds longer, but its still pretty quick.

If you want to make a Model 12 into a quick change barrel gun, you need to swap everything in front of the receiver. Barrel, extension, mag tube, forend, (all of it assembled as a unit). Swapping assemblies is pretty quick, but more complicated than guns designed decades later.

Bear in mind that Winchester did not sell the barrel assemblies as regular spare, or extra parts. Get you hands on a set today, and what you have is the parts that came off some other gun. And you should have the headspace on your receiver checked if you swap the barrel assemblies. Unlike more recent designs with fixed headspace quick change barrels, the Model 12 can be adjusted (by a competent gunsmith) allowing the gun to last virtually forever. But this means that the barrel group from one gun might not have the proper headspace on another receiver.

Also be aware that 20" riot barrels do exist, but are very rare, and expensive. And they are normally only found on the collectable riot guns, not as parts. However, there are short barrels out there, ones made by cutting off longer barrels. Sometimes the bead was replaced, sometimes not.

My 16th birthday present, 40 some years ago, was a 30" full choke Model 12, made in the 1920s. Love that gun! When I got the bug for a riot length gun, I wound up buying another model 12 at a gunshow, one that someone had already cut down. I still have both guns, they aren't going anywhere!
 
I gave up on my O/U and switched to a 1941 Win model 12 trap. I believe it still has the original forend but someone swappe out the butt stock for a field model. I was able to purchase it cheap, and ordered a replacement butt stock with adjustable comb.
This gun is a clay breaking machine. I shot more 25's with it in a couple months than I ever shot with my old O/U.

I made up my Model 12 extra heavy, I filled the stock bolt hole with #8 shot, and added 4 empties filled with #8 in the mag tube. I can still put at least one in the mag for doubles.
I love this gun. If there is a flaw with the model 12 for trap it is a little light and will hammer a guy after a few rounds of trap.

I shoot 1 oz trap loads, the gun is a total pussycat, thanks to that extra weight and a good pad.
I shall never part with this gun........nothing handles like a model 12, except perhaps an SX-1 which is on my list. They are also filled with original Winchester awesomeness.
 
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