(MO) "Deer Doggers" Get Hit With Suspension

:D Snare? SNARE? No, no, no!

You wait on a tree limb, over the deer trail. When Bambi comes along, you drop down and demonstrate your prowess at deer-dogging! THEN you haul him to town.

I want the concession for ticket sales. :D

Art
 
Sportsmen = yea right.

Yankytrash hit the nail on the head.

People who 'HUNT" like this are just to lazy to drag thier fat asses out of thier four by fours. But of course it's thier "God given right"

What swine!

12-34hom.
 
Without any apologies to anyone there are a few things I want to clear up.

First I am sure that some people do mis-treat their dogs but listen good to this "yankytrash" because it may save your life if you come down here in Cajun country and accuse some dog deer hunters of mis-treating his dog.................. A REAL dog hunter takes better care of his dogs than he does the wife, the kids etc. They are NOT starved they are NOT confined in "6x8 cages" and they are not "25 head to a 25' square." They have large pens ........... about 2 or 3 dogs to a 25" square with fresh water, nice insulated dog houses with fresh hay in them and plenty of good high protein dog food. When some good dogs cost upwards of $500 only a fool would mis-treat them. There have also been dog stealers that have been shot (and foud not guilty) for stealing a good dog.

The dogs hunt because just like people ..... they love it!

You may not like it.............that's your privlige but if its done legally and take my word for it there is a lot of it done legally down here, but you don't have to knock someone that does it.

In fact maybe you should tackle that 300# porker with a knife..........it may make you appreciate a different view point.

"12-34hom" You need to go back and read my first post on this thread or better yet come on down here and drag your butt through a couple of miles of swamp in hip boots or waders, carrying a rifle and your gear, to get to your stand, while the dog man is following the dogs yea that's right he follows them as best he can through the same terrain that the dogs go over, and MAYBE just MAYBE if you are lucky enough to get a deer and have to drag it back to where your truck is parked you will think before you make a comment like you did in your last post.

If a man hunts within the law you better learn to back him instead of try to alienate him. hunting is under enough pressure now from the anti's as it is without having internal squabbles.

If it's possible think before you rant.

Nuff said.
 
If a man hunts within the law you better learn to back him instead of try to alienate him. Hunting is under enough pressure now from the anti's as it is without having internal squabbles.
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;) Agreed.
 
Homo Sap has been hunting with dogs since way back in earliest known cave-drawings. Why the sudden upset? Just more PC from modern America?

I imagine there are just a whole bunch of dog-hunters who can outrun and outlast more than a few "athletes".

Used to be a fella up in Alpine, Texas, who had a pack of lion dogs. He exercised them daily, running up to 20 miles in a morning. He finally quit. Why? Heck, he was 83, and his knees weren't quite what they'd been...He did keep his hand in, a bit; he was paid to fly to Africa to instruct on training lion dogs, there.

:), Art
 
I am NOT a fan of dog hunting. It has been my experience around Gainesville, and Ocala Florida, that the absolutly worst "sportsmen" in the world come out with their dogs, and bubba buddies. They tend to take the term "redneck" to a new level.

In Blanding, Lochloosa, Ocala, and Osceola, I have had run ins with dog hunters. They are rude, unsportsman like, and tear the woods up with monster trucks. I just do not like them, or their 'sport'.
 
Dog hunting in eastern central Georgia is not quite what some of you folks have in mind. Like I said you can't use CB's and you can't hunt from roads. So it's not rednecks tearing around in monster trucks. You can't trespass with dogs and continue hunting the deer.

So only clubs with very large leases have dog hunts and usually only a certain small number a year. The rest of the season is limited to stand and still hunting on these clubs.

They place the hunters in a line in known, assigned locations for safety purposes along one edge of the property-several thousand acres. The dog packs start at the other side and attempt to drive the deer toward the line of hunters. The deer are moving rather rapidly when you spot them, I'm told.

The two clubs I know of that have dog hunts are large acreage, exclusive, and expensive. I don't think their membership is quite the image some of you seem to hold.

Maybe in your states, redneck hunters can use dogs, radios, and trucks to tear up and down the highways and through the woods as they desire. Hope they don't try it here. Our game wardens love writing tickets.

Oh, I knew a guy that tried the jumping on a deer with a knife thingy. He got the deer. Before it bled out it almost got him.

And the claim that the .44 is more "merciful" than a knife. I've seen a pig die from blood loss after being hit with a thrown knife in the lungs. When the knife hit it, it jumped about two feet and then looked around for a while. Then it went to munching acorns again. About three minutes later it died...peacefully. I've shot a pig with a .44 Magnum that hit the same area. It died in about thirty seconds...squealing, convulsing, biting the ground, and flopping like a fish out of water. If you think a bullet in a vital area not instantly fatal is more merciful than a knife wound in like circumstances then you do not know what you are talking about and have obviously never witnessed it.
 
Believe me, if the dog-hunting and dog-rearing were the pipe-smoking Norman Rockwell scene y'all describe, I might have a shred of respect for the sport. However, from what I've witnessed and experienced here in Virginia and one deer season in hugebugsville, Florida, I don't believe I'll ever see respect for it.

Regardless though, I'll never get over the "caged dog" thing. I just can't. Dogs were meant to run. Indeed, dogs do like to hunt - all year long, not a month or two a year.

Well, most dogs... not them woosy little rat/dog miniture breeds they have in them NYC apartments.:D


Spart - I hear them pigs go down quicker if you go for a head shot. Rifle/pistol=head, Shotgun=torso. 'course, that's just my experience.;)
 
I never have hunted deer with dogs and have no desire to do so, but I have no problem with people who undertake the sport within the guidlines of the law within thier state.

I do hunt bobcats, racoon and someday will try mountain lion and maybe bear with dogs. If you don't think its sporting and that I'm a lazy slob - come on out and join me for a day. I promise you won't have to engage in the activities, just keep up and observe. Ya better be in good shape too, the dogs ain't gonna wait for ya and I gotta keep close enough to keep track of them so I can't either. Bring a compass and a map. ;)

The hunt is not about killing game either - its about the chase, the music, and the joy of watching a finely trained dog do what he's been bred for. Most of the time I even let the treed critters go (unless the pelt is prime and I'm trying to recoup some of my invested costs.)

And as for mistreating my dog - I have about $600 in him this year on vet visits and kibble. Oh, double that - I've got two dogs. Glad the kennel's already in and I don't have to repour thier floor and rebuild a new house every year cause I wouldn't have any money left over for firearms after that. He gets out to run the yard whenever I'm home to keep an eye on him to see he doesn't get into trouble and at least three times a week we head for the hills for a serious run or even a hunt. After every outing he gets a good once over with the comb to keep any insectoid pests he may have picked up out of the kennel area and to catch any thorns or cuts that may become infected.

Now, that's the way I do it, partially anyway - there's a lot more than this too, but who has the time or space? Maybe you can see now that hunting with hounds is NOT just a lazy man's way to put meat in the freezer. Or maybe not and you can't see more than that big tip of your own nose... :p

If a man hunts within the law you better learn to back him instead of try to alienate him. Hunting is under enough pressure now from the anti's as it is without having internal squabbles.
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Thanks Southla1
 
yankytrash, when you say "caged dog", are you talking about small cages at an owner's house? I'd have to believe that's a rare deal, because then the dogs get way out of physical condition. They don't live in those cages one sees in the back of pickups; those are only for transport.

A trick a lot of rural folks use is when you have two dogs, always keep one tied up. The other dog will hang around home. If you turn both loose at the same time, TLOK how far they'll roam. You just alternate which dog's restrained...(Or have a good fenced big yard, of course.)

Art
 
I grew up in north Louisiana. Dog hunting was a normal part of hunting life. Being from a large land-owning family, we didn't particularly care for it. Especially would get incensed when people let their hounds loose and it wasn't even season. But always felt like they had their place. Dogs do make a certaiin amount of sense in some scenarios.
Another problem not really noted is the tendency of people to let their dogs (non-hunting types) run wild whenever and wherever they want. Can't tell you the number of times I've run across dogs running thru the woods at all times of the year.
 
Don't know about others experience, but we never lost livestock due to hunting hounds chasing deer. It was always somebody's "pet" dog running loose at night that "packed" with others of his kind that caused trouble.
 
Seems to me that there is the ethical-folks way of hunting with dogs, and "Red-neck Bubbas" rudeness, discourtesy, etc. Which is why the ancient saying of "Good fences make good neighbors." is still true.

I imagine we've all seen highway signs with bullet holes in them..."Hunters" did it? "Shooters" did it?

All of us are penalized, one way or another, from the stupidities of a relative few.

Art
 
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