Miltary in Mesa, Arizona

Just my .02....
Most of the sightings we as a people see, are normal training missions....you guys out west and southwest get many more fighters and other type of jets than we do here in the midwest, and the northeast get a lot of C-130s (just a few years ago when they shut down Richards-Gabaur AFB here, our C's moved to Mass. and the A-10s moved to Omaha & Wichita) the A-10's stationed in Omaha (just one wing) do all of their fire missions at the ranges at Ft. Leanard Wood.... so they fly many miles to drop and shoot......they normally do not fly over the cities but if they fly into Whiteman (Mo.) or emergency fuel in Olathe (Ks.,, the old Navy air station) we will see them.... and sometimes they are loaded for bear....back in '88, we even had a B-52 make an emergency landing at Gabaur and since my house is north of the main strip we heard it and rushed out to see it.... the normal landing pattern here would not have heard a thing as the base is ten miles south and the planes are normally about 2000-2500ft.... but THAT BIRD was slow & low and about 400ft so the noise was huge (every house and car alarm for miles went off)..... point.... worry about the ones you don't see......
 
George. I would be interested to know if you were in town at las Vegas, ot north of town. There is an Aif Force gunnery range about 60 miles north of Vegas, at Indian Springs. I spent several loverly years there. A fully armed F-18 would not be too out of place, althogh most of them stayed away from the road when I was there. (1962)
Then there is Nellis AFB just north of Vegas. The Springs is sort of an auxillary to Nellis with just enough personell to maintain and operate the ranges. Got to see some right fancy airplane gunnery stuff there.
Paul B.
 
Gentlemen,
I realy don't think we need to worry about our own military sneaking around in small units in mysterious preperation for emminant barcoding and detintion camps. Let's calm down a bit. A sudden "take over" would require mass mobilazation and months of obvious, noisy preperation. Everybody would know. Think about how many military families and civies live on base. Our bases aren't secret compounds with tightly controlled access. One can visit any local base or camp and look for MIBs, black helicopters, UN cyborg nazis, whatever. It's not our regular military we need to worry about. It's the socialists in Washington, it's your neighbors who are ignorant and apathetic, it's the PLA, it's anarchy.
 
Since when did M1,s get coupleas for the .50?
Dust cover closed? Give me a brake, the dust cover is always closed unless you are firing. What green Lt. would have two M1s and troops in trucks under his command? I believe in combined arms but that is stupid. I don't know if this was threating or not but it is strange.
 
cdf - your problem is you make too much sense.
If ANY military force including your own were for some idiot reason going to take over the USA millions of people would know about it.

The real enemy is APATHY. The reason we have all this anti gun crap is 90% of gun owners are too damn lazy and cheap to do anything about.

I really wonder sometimes wether or not some of the conspiracy junkies and NWO lot are actually anti gun plants.
It does make sense because all of this fear your own government stuff is wasting time and money which would be much better spent getting the apathetic gun owners actually helping for once.
The problem is that conspiracies are exciting and plain old apathy is boring. You can't sell books, videos, survival kits etc about apathy can you ? hmm maybe we could set up the apathy militia ? we could all sit round and do nothing and whine. (if we ever bothered to go to any meetings)
I'll offend some here but NWO conspiracy theory lovers are doing the anti-gun side a favour - you are wasting time and diverting people from the real issue which is apathy.

All it would take is for every gun owner in the USA( I mean every damn one) to turn up to rallies on one day and for every one of them to CHANGE their vote depending on wether the candidate was pro or anti gun.

When I see a Navy helicopter or some plane flying around, I don't get all scared, I like the Navy base being local. I've invited a couple of navy blokes to shoot on my property - should I be worried. Seeing military out on the streets is a good thing, it gets people used to them and stops people being afraid of all those bad guns and stuff.
There is nothing to fear but fear itself(and apathy) seems to fit.
 
One thing that seperates US from THEM - is that our military is not an OCCUPYING FORCE... They dont live off the People. They are volunteers and get PAID... they are good citizens on a whole and are family men too...
In short - THEY ARE US...



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"A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." - Sigmund Freud
Hey - have you seen the new Ultimate Super Tactical Match Gun?
 
Folks may argue about Rabbit Assassin's opinions but this one is pure gold,

"All it would take is for every gun owner in the USA( I mean every damn one) to turn up to rallies on one day and for every one of them to CHANGE their vote depending on wether the candidate was pro or anti gun."

Yep. Pure gold.
 
John/Az2,

Thanks for the information John...I can't explain it, but I also don't live to awful far from there and appreciate the info..

Best Regards....
"Train as You Live and Live as You Train"
 
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