Militia Rising

The real militia is all able bodied men between the ages of 18 and 45, as established by the Militia Act of 1903.
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That's the constitutional definition. Those of us who lived through the 1990's remember that the media and politicians had their own definition, and it was one that really tainted things.

"Militia" can conjure up different meanings for different people. For many of us, it's the correct definition. For many other folks, it's a sinister concept involving homegrown terrorist or insurrectionist activity. As recently as two years ago, Time ran a spread about domestic militia groups that painted a very bleak and sinister picture.
 
Militias are dangerous!

(after all, if they weren't, they wouldn't be much good when needed, now would they?)

and if you cannot convince people they are a threat, then convince them they are five thumbed idiots with lots of guns (also a danger)...

one man's militia is another's terrorist...

by their actions shall ye know them...
 
I started watching it but then had to give up. Yeah, there was a lot of cr@p, so-called secret locations, etc. but what made me reach for the remoter was the guy crying that this what he always wanted, etc. etc. He had tears running down his face!

Back about 1979 or so, a local TV station asked us if they could do a documetary on us. This was in North Florida. We were not a militia group. We were a group of survivalists. We said Nope! They tried to convince us that it would a good thing but we still said Nope.

A couple of months later, they finished their documentary and showed it on TV. They had gone up into Georgia and filmed a group there. That group also claimed to be surviavlists. They showed footage of their "bunker and supplies". Their bunker had water puddles all over it and was half full of trash. Their supplies consisted of beer and ammo. Their training was shooting the empty beer cans. That was it!

The documentary made them out to be total idiots, loosers, wannabe's, etc. and dangerous to society. They may have been but maybe they were only portrayed that way. That's my point. 1000 hours of film reduced to an hour. Pick and choose those "special moments". Maybe even stage a shot. "Hey hey! You guys should ask for passwords like the Army does", etc.

Anyway, it's just a thought. I don't believe three quarters of what I hear or see from media outlets, either good or bad. Keep yer powder dry, Mac.
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I saw the first episode. Now I never had an military experience, unless boy scouts count, but I could see this they were fundermentally flawed in their training. Heck, one of these "recuirts" had been with them for 6 months and had no clue how to fire a weapon (ar15/ak47). He even called an AR an AK. 6 months and no one has trained him in firearms??

Than their Family retrieval team thing was just scary. 5 armed people going into a home and clearing it with live weapons with children in the house, who trains like this?? Only highly skilled personnel train like this. These were not them. As they are leaving with the secured family members in vehicles you hear one curse. Opps, he just dropped his gun, still in the holster, on the ground while entering the van.

I may be considered an arm chair commander by some, but these people do not have the training to be doing these types of "missions". Just IMHO. I could be wrong, but I really thought these people were mostly wannabees. Nothing wrong with their basic concepts, but training would actually be required. Real training, not just hitting a range and pitching a tent, and poorly for that matter.

Wow, I could not believe what I was seeing. I'm sure there is much more and I could go on, but what's the point. You get the idea by now.
 
I flipped to it when I saw it on the DirectTv guide, and couldn't get past the heavy set fellow in MARPATs with subdued O-6 insiginia berating his "troops" over how to construct a shelter.

You expect me to believe that ths guys have AR-15s, MARPATs, and what looked to be BLACKHAWK! assualt vests and yet they can't buy a $100 backpacking tent from REI?

I flipped back to King of the Hill at that. That's Boy Scout 2nd Class advancement stuff. Just more fuel to the "gun owners are insurrectionists" fire.
 
October 26, 2012, 08:53 AM #5
g.willikers
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Join Date: September 28, 2008
Posts: 1,851 Isn't that the whole point of these anti gun propaganda shows?
To show gun owners in the worst possible light.
Find and show the worst and ignore the best.
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That's exactly right.

Did you ever wonder why shows like Larry Vickers's "TacTV" or "Guns & Ammo TV", "The Best Defense", etc are not shown on these mainline channels?

"They" don't want gun owners to be seen in a professional, responsible light.

Thank goodness we have "The Sportsman Channel" and "The Outdoor Channel".
 
Thank goodness we have "The Sportsman Channel" and "The Outdoor Channel".
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The problem is that those are seen as special-interest or "niche" channels by the mainstream. The negative portrayals are showing on the mainstream channels.
 
Tom Servo said:
The problem is that those are seen as special-interest or "niche" channels by the mainstream. The negative portrayals are showing on the mainstream channels.
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I know it's little comfort, but remember that the mainstream media's whole reason for existing is to provide a vehicle to sell toothpaste and laundry detergent. They would try to sensationalize grass growing or paint drying if they could.

So presenting responsible adults engaging in nonsensational behavior isn't good for them.

The problem comes in that many of the "reporters" today buy in to the presentation, and have also lost the old school objectivity. They have a social agenda.

But getting the mainstream to present boring nonsensational stories isn't going to happen.

The old newspaper saw was "If it bleeds, then it leads." You put the pictures of the car wreck above the fold.

Nothing much has changed.
 
Years ago I used to see a Michigan Militia booth at every gun show. I always thought it was comical how everyone there was wearing officer's rank.:rolleyes:
 
The modern militia movement is a joke. They don't need special editing or a detailed search for missing chromosome branches.

When the world didn't end in the 1970's suppliers were stuck with lots of surplus junk. They needed a market and imho the various militias were created to be that market.

The same people that convinced the easily persuadable that they should move to the Rogue river valley and dig bunkers for the coming nuclear winter, just changed the threat from starving city folks bent on stealing stock piles of k-rations into government thugs bent of stealing their freedom.

Off course the 90s up turn in the economy, stupid acts of violence and Oklahoma City pretty much put a damper on the movement.

The economy and various social factors has made the militia movement popular again, but it's still made up of the same types of folks that are easy to persuade.

Remember friends don't let friends join militias.
 
Uggghhh. Just watched about 15min on YouTube.

Bunch of fat, slobby wannabe militants who strive to stir up a panic (nuclear meltdowns, natural disaster mania, etc). Nothing wrong with being prepared for a disatser...but purposely stirring up panic and anxiety over unrealistic situations is just stupid. FAIL. These clowns are literally dying to put some bullets in someone armed with anything bigger than a pocket knife lol.
 
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The modern militia movement is a joke... The same people that convinced the easily persuadable that they should move to the Rogue river valley and dig bunkers for the coming nuclear winter, just changed the threat from starving city folks bent on stealing stock piles of k-rations into government thugs bent of stealing their freedom.... Remember friends don't let friends join militias.
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+1. I still think that we, as gun owners, should refer to these clowns as paramilitaries rather than militias.

The militia, as defined by the Constitution and other federal and state laws, is officially sanctioned and controlled by the states. Although a state may sanction a private group to be part of the state militia, a private group can't legitimately declare itself to be "The Militia"; the title is spurious, but there's no law against using it. :rolleyes:
 
The Florida Militia doing a password routine in broad daylight with the commander, from an "undisclosed location" in North Florida. Then the commander brags about access to fresh water from a nearby named spring. So much for undisclosed.
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Have not watched the show and am not likely to start.

When I was active duty in North Florida one of the groups tried numerous times to recruit me. I stayed as far from them as I could. They gave me the impression that all the cared about was having a homogeneously complected group of antisocial people that owned guns. Eventually, after refusing with expletives included, they left me alone.
 
Here's a video for anyone interested. I am yet to watch it, but I think I will hate it, based on the first five minutes. And everyone else's comments.
 
I just watched it. I can't get over how they pretend they're officers and have people address them as "sir." It really makes them seem like wannabe's, since militia are by definition civilians and there shouldn't be any rank. They need to chill out and treat each other as equals. I would have more faith in a local USPSA team than these guys.
 
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Real Militia?

Have any of you ever heard about a "militia", (paramilitary group) that actually had their stuff together? I mean, a group of armed, trained, and responsible men in a community during a disaster could be a great thing. Aiding the police, military, National Guard, Red Cross, or other groups during any kind of situation would be superb. Think about this. Say a militia group came out and helped relief efforts and victims of Hurricane Sandy? That would surely make the news, and would be difficult to paint in a negative light. Thats what we need to decrazy the militia movement
 
Have any of you ever heard about a "militia", (paramilitary group) that actually had their stuff together?
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Actually yes I have. Some states, including my own, Washington, have an organized militia. But it's not a bunch of armed citizens.

The Washington state militia is made up of former military and law enforcement members that support police and the National Guard during natural disasters. Much of their work involves logistical support and preforming routine jobs such as traffic direction so that the police and Guard can devote their time to other jobs.

They render an important civil service and do it very well.
 
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