Middle of back carry

Tom I know your pain, I have had two lower back surgeries and one neck!
There is no pain like back pain!!!Medication affects more than just easing pain, and nothing removes all of it, while your awake anyway.

I spent good money on a nice SOB holster for my GCNM "Dancin Pony", IMHO I should have lit a match to the money.
I carried with it ONCE when I drove to the store, and had to take it off before I started home because it was so uncomfortable. Just removing the auto doesnt make a much of a difference.
Also, the rig is very hard to locate and draw smoothly and safely for me, feels combersome, and I wish I had never bought it!!:(
 
I know I am in the minority but I do not like Belt carry at all. I usually pocket carry my CCW and use shoulder holsters for every thing else.

If I had to carry one the belt, the middle of the back would be my last choice.

I am not saying that this is for every one, this is just my personal preference.
 
There are those whose spinal injuries are not so easily managed, and a regimen of opiates can really cramp one's lifestyle. Those who've been through fusion can tell you that it's no picnic.
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Oh, I'm with you there and can see why you, as I, wouldn't even consider MOB carry. I had a trampoline spill 51 years ago that doubled me completely flat backwards and ripped stuff doctors never even look at. Long story short, I have bone on bone at 4 and 5. I've been advised to get a fusion, but the success rate is something like 20% and many end up with worse pain than before the surgery, so I simply put up with it.

Scariest is the chance that I'll do some seemingly insignificant thing that sets off a spiral of pain countered by super muscle spasms which makes the pain worse which... etc. Four broken ribs were almost nothing by comparison. Huge doses of a combination of opiates _and_ muscle relaxants are essential when that happens, and _hard to come by_.

For me the trick is getting enough exercise to stay healthy but not enough to put me in bed.

Starting this thread does not mean I am interested in MOB carry myself (although there are those who jump to all kinds of conclusions). I can totally sympathize with your plan of eliminating carry risks, based my own constant fear of getting over my boundaries.

There's another area I'd lay money you are familiar with - mind control. You know what it is to think about something very positive to take your mind off the negative.

In that vein, a very old joke. A stock truck was in the ditch and cows all over the place, including the ditch. The driver was in the ditch with a broken leg himself.

A trooper came on the scene, looked at injured cattle in the ditch and asked an onlooking farmer, "What's wrong with that cow right there?"

"Broken leg."

The trooper pulled out his 8 inch barreled .44 magum. FWOOM!! The cow was dead.

What's wrong with that cow over there?

Broken leg.

FWOOM!!

What about that one?

FWOOM!!

Turning to the farmer in the ditch, "What's wrong with you?"

NOT A D___ THING!!!
 
Shoulder holster

I usually pocket carry my CCW and use shoulder holsters for every thing else.
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Uh oh! Branded for life! You are merely a movie obsessed wannabe!

Just joking. :p

My rule? Whatever works. Just stay away from Dirty Harry guns for pocket carry. :eek:
 
So......its lookin like I am the only one that carries SOB.......does that make me a rebel? :)

I carry my Springfield Micro Compact (3") IWB SOB, and do so quite comforatably. I have a hard time carrying with any other postition, as I am 5' 8", 140 lbs with no padding, so the gun is immediately recognizable, and, uncomfortable in any position other than small of back. I do remove it while driving, but have no problems with it during other activities. I did have to teach myself to kneel instead of bend, since as previously stated, it will print quite obviously while bending (if in just a T-shirt).

I have tried appendix carry, stong side, weak side, high on the hip, shoulder holster...........even thought about ankle.......but the SOB is what works best for me.

I haven't fallen on it yet, but, if I do, and manange to paralyze myself like everybody tells me I will, I will make sure to let you guys know so you can give me the "I told you so" ;)
 
i carried sob for years with my xd40sc in a bladetech uch.

many of the "points" people make are just ridiculous.

"somebody can take your gun before you can react". how often do you let somebody get that close? besides with a quality holster you cant draw it except at the right angle, so somebody would have to wrestle it from the holster. id think youd notice that.

"its difficult to advoid flagging yourself during a draw". again with a proper holster it orients the gun so that it is not a concern.

"its uncomfortable while sitting". again see proper holster comments.

ive wrecked my motorcycle carrying sob a few times, no spinal injuries for me.

it is a very comfortable, and very concealed way to carry.
 
I am a southpaw:eek: I find it quite comfortable to care my Springfield Micro Compact .45 using a Clipdraw Belt Clip inside the waist band or sometime clipped to the left rear pocket
 
Getting close

"somebody can take your gun before you can react". how often do you let somebody get that close?
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Ah, somebody hasn't been watching enough TV. The movies make it very clear that smart cops and good guys in general seldom look behind them and get hit in the back of the head on a regular basis. :D
 
The first pistol I bought years ago was a PT99 and I did limitedly carry it SOB in a LH holster. I actually knew a detective with the Wayne Co. SD who carried his Beretta 92 the same way when I had met him many years before that, shortly after the 92 went into production.

If you're wearing a sport coat or jacket, it's very easy to conceal even a full-size pistol like these, however, it is extremely uncomfortable to sit anywhere and driving is a litereal PITA. Walking is comfortable and anything but a tight pair of pants works, given how there's a natural gap at the SOB. Overall it just isn't very practical for day to day activities and yeah, I'm glad I never fell backwards.
 
There is a reason us old guys carry guns in certain favored positions.
It's because those positions work. I see newbies carrying thir guns IWB, butt forward-and it just makes me smile. I see SOB carry, and I just smile. While they think they have discovered something new, one day they'll learn. And I just smile.
 
FWIW, I have never known any serious gun carrier to use an SOB holster. For one thing, it has to be used with slipon shoes, since bending over to tie a shoelace is rather revealing. I always used either a crossdraw holster or a right side behind the hip type, the Bucheimer Federal Man, the best thumb break holster ever made.

I think the SOB idea came from the movies, where it seems to have originated. I recall a Charlie's Angels show where Cheryl Ladd whipped a revolver from behind her back. I thought it a neat trick and wondered how the holster worked, since she was wearing a bikini at the time. (Seriously, movie actors don't really carry those guns - they are given to them by the prop man just before they perform their magic "draw and shoot", so the type and practicality of the carry method is totally irrelevant.)

Jim
 
I carry at about "5 o'clock" nearly every day and have for many years. As a matter of fact I'm comfortably sitting in a computer chair while carrying a Kahr PM45 IWB at about 5 o'clock right now. Maybe even at 5:30 ;). It is a little slower into action than true strong side carry but it's much more comfortable and conceals much better for me. I practice drawing from this position and I'm not slow and my muzzle control isn't an issue. I just slide my regular right hand holster further around toward the back. I really don't understand what all the fuss about.....works great for me and has for years
 
I'm with Crankylove on this one. I stayed away from SOB for years on the "what if you fall on your back?" issue. Over the last couple of years, I've had occasion to fall rather more often than I did when I was younger, and...

...it's always to the front. It's natural for human beings to lurch forward when we lose our balance, because it's to the front that we have the most chance to control our fall or to grab something to stop it. In fact the only person I've ever seen go flat on his back was my dad, years ago, when he slipped on ice as he walked to our car. Just like the cartoon character on a banana peel...wham. Had he been carrying SOB, yes, he'd have been injured by the gun.

As I don't live where there's ice i the winter, I don't worry so much about it.

Carrying SOB enables my lower back to camoflauge the gun. Guys are more "straight up and down", but for me, the small of my back is a VERY convenient hiding place. Because I'm flexible enough, I can easily draw from my back (this may be a female thing, as my husband cannot do this at all), and because I have good trigger discipline, I'm not going to shoot myself in my rear doing so. It also has the huge advantage of not "dragging" on my waist, pulling my jeans waistline and making it too uncomfortable to carry at all.

The only other gun I can hide easily in a Houston summer: my Beretta Tomcat, in my pocket. When I can, I'd rather carry the P232 SOB.

Jan
 
Small or middle of the back style carry, Blackhawk Check-Six...

As posted here a few times and a few different ways, small or middle of the back rigs are not the "best" way of carrying concealed firearms.
In a real use of force event, you could be knocked to the ground or pushed down on your back. Why risk a major injury or problem due to this carry style?
The same reasons go for avoiding duty gear or for a armed citizen packing spare magazines, white lights, small knives, etc. Many sworn LE officers, security guards, corrections etc know carrying duty gear near the lower back could lead to injury or a worker's comp issue for a line-of-duty event(which includes accidents, ;)).
I had a nitwit CO(commanding officer) who ordered us to wear our metal handcuffs directly in the center of lower back-spine when I was a US Army MP. I was lucky enough to only be on the road for a few weeks until my enlistment ended with this stupid SOP.

I would say that I've seen a few well made holsters like the Blackhawk Check-Six line and Don Hume's DA revolver rig for side/MOB carry. Holsters like that could do well on side of the hip if you have a larger waist(like me, ;)). Security & retention are important issues too but not as much for deep concealment.
 
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