Medium-sized .32 ACP (7.65mm) pistols.

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I decided to compile a list of medium-sized .32 ACP or 7.65mm handguns for people who search for this on Google (so they'll spend less time searching lol). I understand some links may not apply to those who live outside the U.S. but this is just to simplify things.

The first list is for guns that I know are either still in production or imported once in a while like the one from Beretta . Oddly enough, some of these guns may not be available in the U.S. but I'm including them here for a reference in case the situation changes.

Beretta 81 FS
Beretta http://www.berettadefensetechnologies.com/pistols/81-fs-cheetah-pistol

Tanfoglio FT7
Tanfoglio http://www.tanfoglio.it/eng/catalogo/defence/ft-7-9.html

Girsan MC13
Girsan http://girsan.com.tr/project/mc-13

Sarsilmaz B6C
Sarsilmaz http://www.sarsilmaz.com/tr/katalog/urun/B6C/4/5

Zastava M70
Zastava http://www.zastava-arms.rs/en/civilianproduct/pistol-m70

Walther PP
Walther http://www.waltherarms.com/ OK, for whatever reason, Wikipedia says it's still in production and I saw a recent video with the Walther PP in .32 ACP but I can't find a direct link to the Walther PP in .32 ACP.

If anyone wants my opinion, apart from the Beretta 81, the other guns I find cool-looking are the Tanfoglio FT7 and Sarsilmaz B6C. (Some basic research showed these are good quality brands that have gone kind of unnoticed.) The Girsan looks like an OK design as well. I don't know much about the quality level on that one though, there may be different names for these like Zenith and Chiappa.

Now, for guns that may not be in production but ones you may want to look for on GunBroker (or there may be limited production on some):
CZ 83
CZ http://cz-usa.com/product/cz-83-9-mm-browning-satin-nickel-cal-380-auto/

Bersa Thunder 32
Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bersa_Thunder_32

Sig Sauer P230
Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIG_Sauer_P230

FÉG PA-63
Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FEG_PA-63

Llama XA
Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Llama_firearms

The CZ and Sig Sauer or possibly the Bersa may be interesting in this list.
 
The Tanfo FT 7/9 is a spitting image of the EAA Witness Pavona .380, other than the groovy-colored metalflake frame. ;)
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Oddly enough, some of these guns may not be available in the U.S...
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It's not odd when you consider that very few U.S. shooters want one. ;)

Also, the ATF import points system—introduced with the Gun Control Act of 1968 or 68 GCA for short—makes it difficult to import .22/.32/.380 pistols into the U.S. unless they're either DA/SA or relatively long and heavy. This is the reason that small imported single-action designs like the Zastava M70 aren't sold here.

It's also the reason that the Beretta 100 (pictured here in the other thread) was made; it's based on the Beretta 70, a hot seller prior to 1968, but with the barrel lengthened and target sights added to score more import points. The 100 was unpopular; Beretta later got around the import restrictions on the 70 (and reintroduced the very popular 950 Jetfire) by opening a U.S. production line under the auspices of its importer.
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OK, for whatever reason, Wikipedia says [the Walther PP] is still in production...
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That's because the Wikipedia article also addresses the PPK and PPK/S. AFAIK the PP itself has been out of production since the late 1980s.

BTW good luck compiling a list of out-of-production .32 pistols. If you count everything that came out of Europe prior to the end of WWII, you have perhaps listed 1%-2% of the total number of models. ;)
 
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I just picked up an old Crvensa Zastava M70 7,65mm I happened upon at a LGS. I detail stripped, cleaned and lubed it and hope to fire it next week. The darn thing is built like a tank and I like how it is a junior version (well sort of) to my Russian TT33.

My favorite out of production 7,65mm is my 1965 ERMA Luger KGP68. I collect Lugers and that one is my baby version and a hoot to shoot.
 
I have a 1903 Colt and it's a absolute pleasure to shoot. Unfortunately they should not be carried with one in the chamber.
Also have a PA63 but it's in 9mak. I would think that it would be pleasurable to shoot in 32/7.65. In Mak it's kind of snappy. Although IMO it makes a great carry gun. Light and still large enough to get a good grip.
 
"No mention of the Colt 1903 or FN 1910/1922?"
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Well, the Colt 1903 might be nice as some people say but it was only sold recently as a anniversary special (and a bit expensive). The FN 1910/1922 was produced until 1983 according to Wikipedia. I wanted the list to be most of the more recent models...

" the ATF import points system—introduced with the Gun Control Act of 1968 or 68 GCA for short—makes it difficult to import .22/.32/.380 pistols into the U.S."
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If I'm not lazy in the future, I hope I'll get a list of politicians to lobby because this doesn't make sense to me.

"you have perhaps listed 1%-2% of the total number of models."
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I tried picking the more recent ones. I contemplated waiting until my list was really long before posting then I figured I may as well post what I have for now.
 
I just looked on GB and there were 122 32acp pistols for sale. I don't believe you listed the NAA 32acp Guardian or the Kel-Tec 32acp.

I have had 3 Tangfolio single action pistols, two 380s and a 32acp and everyone was a real shooter. I wish I had the 32 back. But I didn't see a single one of them listed on GB. Thats strange because they sold a bunch of them here.

A few months ago Aim Surplus had a bunch of the PA-63s for sale for just a little over $200. I should have bought a couple.:(
 
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BEST .32 ACP old-time, all-time pistol...

Sauer 38H.

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2nd Place: Colt 1903 Pocket Hammerless

3d Place (tie):HK 4 and HK P7K3
 
That little FEG 32acp is a sweet shooter. My FiL hot mine away from me.

I love my Beretta 100 as a range gun.

I also have a Mauser 1914, an MAB Model D, an origial Colt 1903, and a CZ70.
 
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"Benelli B77 and HK P7K3, also. Both are great shooters and not small mouse guns."
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OK, but I tried to list some more recently-produced guns. By the way, do you find the grip safety on the HK a bit odd?
"32/7.65 is fairly rare for carry in the US. Is it still a common carry in other countries?"
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I don't know but I did a quick search of gun shops in some European countries and couldn't find many in .32 ACP. I'm starting to think if someone wanted to promote these guns, it might be either as practice/training guns or for recoil-sensitive people.
 
Medium size for people with really small hands.
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Cheapshooter you are correct. I forgot about the "medium size" part the OP asked for.:o

I like my Manhurin PP 32 but I don't shoot it much. When I go for a range session I always forget about it.
 
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Just a little good natured funnin' ratshooter.:D
I to have a Manhurin PP 32. My very first C&R handgun some 15 or so years ago. The French Walther, and a CZ50 are my only two "mid-sized" 32's. Both fun shooters, but like your Manhurn PP they really don't get the range time they deserve.
 
No problem cheapshooter. I did miss that part. The Manhurin I have I found in a pawnshop down around Austin Tx for $250 OTD. Somebody had messed with it and lost the plunger that pushes the extractor to the rim of the case. I ordered the parts needed from S&W when the were building PPKs. The parts were around $15 IIRC.

My gun has the "Walther" Xed out of the slide and removed from the grip panels. I started a thread here about this gun and found out Walther and Manhurin had a falling out and Walther made them remove their name from the guns.

My gun per the experts here was made in 1957. It looks almost new. I was made in 1957 and the gun is in far better shape than me.:( My dad was always a fan of the way the PP looked. If he were still alive I would hand him the gun and thank him for being the great dad he was.
 
Another rare 32 acp is Rheinmetall ABT. Sommerda. A well made German pistol this one was made in about 1927. A war trophy with ivory grips.
 
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