May be giving up on Glock (but what next)

I was kidding about the swiss sweden thing. I apologise for my error.

Again my issue isnt with defending my grip. I admit I had problems before but no gun with the reputation glock has should stovepipe EVERY TIME one fires without executing the right grip.

In any case im leaning towards sending the Glock in to be repaired and giving it a chance.
 
Swiss swedish same difference right......right....
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Well, I'm embarrassed for American education now.

That is like saying,

"Guatemalan...Canadian same difference right......right....."

See how that make no more sense on this continent?

This might help.

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Sweden
Sweden, officially the Kingdom of Sweden, is a Scandinavian country in Northern Europe. Sweden borders Norway and Finland, and is connected to Denmark by a bridge-tunnel across the Øresund
Capital: Stockholm
Population: 9.517 million (2012) World Bank
Colleges and Universities: Lund University, Uppsala University, More
Official language: Swedish Language
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Switzerland
Country
Switzerland, officially the Swiss Confederation, is a federal parliamentary republic consisting of 26 cantons, with Bern as the seat of the federal authorities, the so-called Bundesstadt.
Currency: Swiss franc
Population: 7.997 million (2012) World Bank
Official languages: French, German Language, Romansh language, Italian Language
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Thanks Manta!

I have handled some Swedish made rifles though and they are very nice; but very different from what SIG makes.

Don't give up on Glock the company... perhaps your Glock might be beyond saving though.
 
You need one of these. :)

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Stovepipes are invariably caused by one of three things more often than anything else, in this order...

1. Craptastic ammo.

2. Burr in chamber/slide/rails.

3. Limp Wristing/grip.

Ammo is guilty more often than anything else...quality ammo is Highly important.

Burr in the chamber is Easily Discovered, simply by swabbing with a Q-tip...
if you see hairs pulling off the Q-tip as you swab & remove, there's yer huckleberry...
check the slide & rails too, sometimes a burr will screw ya there, too...

Grip issues are usually resolved with more hand strength.
Do Aikido Wrist-Strengthening exercises & get an Eagle Claw hand exerciser...
open-hand & fingertip pushups help, fairly quickly hand strength goes up, lots of problems go away.
Also makes yer arms look better & does wonders for your health. Heck, even Tai Chi helps.

Oh, and had you put at least 500 rounds downrange yet??
Sometimes pistols need a break-in period to get everything smoothed out and running properly...
sometimes they don't and they're good outta the box...
that's the thing about mass manufacturing...never quite know how something will turn out...
so it is up to the End-User to do the Due Dilligence and test out their firearm...
just like a motorcycle/4-wheel cage needs a break-in period ;)
 
Its really not about "grip" as much as it is about keeping the gun and your arms from moving rearwards under recoil.

I tried to get one of my 17's to malfunction with absolutely NO grip on the gun, simply allowing the gun to rest on the web of my hand and top of my middle finger, and shot 4 full mags (68 rounds) without a stoppage.

What Ive found is, as long as you have mass behind the gun, and dont allow the gun and/or your arm to move rearwards with recoil, it will function fine.

You can squeeze the gun so tight the bullets squirt out the bottom, and if you allow it to move rearwards when you shoot, it will do you no good.
 
Don't feel bad lot's of first time buyers bite on the "There's only one" lie.

Lay a hand on them all CZ, M&P, Sig, Walther, XD, ruger ect. Believe it or not, there really is more than one manufacture of reliable plastics out there.

Of course my next pistol is probably going to be a G20. :rolleyes:
 
AK103K said:
I tried to get one of my 17's to malfunction with absolutely NO grip on the gun, simply allowing the gun to rest on the web of my hand and top of my middle finger, and shot 4 full mags (68 rounds) without a stoppage.
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I tried a similar test with my G33. I shot it while holding it with nothing but my thumb and trigger finger. No small feat with a sub-compact .357sig and full-house loads.:D Started with one round to make sure I could control it, then two to make sure I wouldn't let it run away, then went to full mags. Never had a single malfunction.

I did find, however, that I can FORCE a malfunction in a way that I wouldn't have expected. If I put my off hand trigger finger on the front of the trigger guard and apply moderate pressure, the gun will jam every, single time.
 
First I would not judge Glock by a one gun experience. There is not a brand made without a lemon here and there. They are great guns that changed the way guns are made. They are very reliable, then again so are others. See if you cant rent a few and try them out. Either way good luck what ever you choose!
 
I started my gun obsession as a Glock guy. I bought an XD, sold every Glock, and never looked back. Best plastic pistol
 
you asked about .40, since you have been on a G19, look at the G23, but if glocks are tasting bad right now look at these
$400-600 range
S&W M&P .40 fs, .40c, Shield
styer M40
Springfield XD line
Ruger SR40,SR40c
$650 on up to holy crap!
H&K USP40,P2000,
Sig (dont know all the#s just like to shoot them :) )
Springfield EMP .40 (my object of lust)
 
the other day misfired and a metal piece that runs along the bottom of the spring (forgive me for not knowing what the piece is called) came out.
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31 posts and no one questions this? Hmmm.
 
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the other day misfired and a metal piece that runs along the bottom of the spring (forgive me for not knowing what the piece is called) came out.
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31 posts and no one questions this? Hmmm.
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Good point.

OP, what metal part was this? Was it the slide lock spring? That would be part #20 in this diagram.
 
Moderator Note: Enough of the geography lessons, please. Anyone who's having trouble distinguishing between Switzerland and Sweden can google it for themselves. This isn't the place for that discussion.
 
Are you sure it was a Glock, they can shoot one million rounds without failing and go bang every time you pull the trigger.
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No. You're thinking of the Hi-Point; And don't forget the lifetime warranty. :D:D:D

Seriously: Have you contacted Glock about your issues? I think they generally stand behind their products. You could potentially end up with a new gun from them.
 
Since you are asking for opinions:

If the pistol is malfunctioning in your hand as well as others, it's probably not a grip issue.

If you need to have a perfect grip and allow not movement under recoil to make this pistol work, it's not a carry piece.

You MAY have better results with a new Glock, or you may not. Either way, it's a gamble. I would try to borrow a XD pistol from a friend and see if that works for you. I bet it will.

I agree that it's best not to judge an entire company or line of products based on one sample...but then Glock does use the tagline Perfection. Doesn't leave much room for mistakes, does it?
 
Get a Gen 3 and your problems will go away.
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That right there.

The move from Gen 3 to Gen 4 involved an (initially problem prone) new recoil assembly, replacing the old and simple recoil spring and guide rod. Supposed to be OK now, maybe the OP got an old one.
 
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