Maverick or Mossberg

This will answer several questions, not just about Maverick, but about Mossberg shotgun/rifle manufacturing in general, including the 500s/590s.

Article from a local newspaper about the Mossberg/Maverick operation in Eagle Pass, Texas:

Maverick Arms to double its size in Eagle Pass
November 14, 2006
By Bill Sontag
Feature Writer


It’s been 17 years since Maverick Arms opened a 40,000-square-foot manufacturing plant in the Eagle Pass Industrial Park where virtually all O.F. Mossberg & Sons shotguns and rifles are produced.

Now, with outstanding response from a world firearms market, Maverick Arms is more than doubling the size of company operations here. It will doubtless increase the Eagle Pass workforce, according to Maverick Arms Controller Refugio “Cuco” Reyes, though he says the company has not announced details and numbers of anticipated employment plans.

Maverick Arms currently has 200 employees, and just last year it was 155, so the cadre is sure to climb when the new plant addition brings square footage to 85,000. With the current workforce, Maverick Arms produces approximately 245,000 shotguns and rifles each year, explained Gerardo Arturo Lopez, Maverick Arms director of operations. That equates to about 1,600 guns built each workday.

But one unique trait of Maverick Arms is its standing as a “reverse maquila.” Whereas most maquiladora (“twin plant”) industries send small parts or components to Mexico for assembly, and return to the United States as completed products, Mossberg guns must reverse the process.

“In Mexico, it is not allowed to produce or buy guns,” said Lopez. So, for the Mossberg guns, parts – receivers, barrels, and stocks, for example – are produced in North Haven, Conn. and Torreon, Coah., Mexico, then shipped to Eagle Pass for assembly. The Maverick Arms plant also serves as the company’s primary shipping and distribution center.

The company is an exemplar of international trade, sending raw steel on flatbed trucks to Torreon, and receiving sealed containers of barrels, triggers and bolt assemblies on pallets in return. Receivers and stocks are produced in North Haven, and shipped to Eagle Pass to be married with parts from Mexico.

The Mossberg “Reserve” series guns are the showpieces of their line. This is the Silver Reserve 12 gauge over-and-under shotgun with 28-inch barrels with a fine gold-colored engraving over silver. The gun has five interchangeable chokes for maximum flexibility of hunting conditions.

Two Mossberg guns are not produced in Eagle Pass. An upper end 12 gauge over-and-under shotgun is made in Turkey with a fine-grained stock made from walnut in that country. And a .22 rifle is produced in Brazil. Both products are shipped to Maverick Arms for shipment from Eagle Pass.

Unfinished wood stocks are stained, varnished and polished in the Eagle Pass plant, but what Gutierrez calls a “high definition” treatment is applied, with film in a flotation chemical process, to plastic composition stocks. Essentially a wide variety of camouflage patterns in muted colors of grey, tan, brown and green, high definition is in high demand from customers with personal choices in mind. A simulated wood grain may also be applied with film in the same process. “High definition” camouflage lamination over stocks and barrels is a popular trend in some parts of the country, though not popular in Del Rio yet.

The 835 Ulti-Mag Flyway series made in Eagle Pass is a 12 gauge shotgun that has an “overbored” and “ported” barrel to reduce muzzle jump and the sensation of recoil.

Shotgun calibers produced here run the gamut from .410 gauge to 20 gauge, 12 gauge and 12 gauge magnum. Rifles produced in Eagle Pass include all calibers from a bolt-action .243 to 7mm. In addition, an estimated 18,000 guns each year are produced to satisfy Army and Navy contracts.

“There are a lot of our guns in Afghanistan and Iraq,” said Jesus Gutierrez, Maverick Arms manufacturing engineer and quality control manager. The armed forces shotguns are designed to handle high-capacity loads, all are pump action and finished with magnesium phosphate-treated steel. In addition, Maverick Arms also produces several lines of short-barreled guns for law enforcement contracts only.

Leadership team members at Maverick Arms are outwardly proud of their products. “‘More Gun For The Money’ is our company motto,” said Gutierrez. “We produce a very reliable product, but at an affordable price.”

The Mossberg Company marks its origin to 1919 with roots in tiny, palm-sized pistols before moving into long gun manufacture. A native of Sweden, Oscar Frederick Mossberg was born in 1866, and came to the United States 20 years later. The company has flourished, with tight requirements for precision and quality.

According to Gutierrez, all Mossberg and Maverick Arms guns feature a 10-year warranty, but Maverick Arms in Eagle Pass also manages a small group of gunsmiths who can perform all repairs to the company’s shotguns and rifles. They also customize guns to suit Mossberg patrons’ specifications.
 
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Mavericks have cheap pins holding the forearm to the action bars, lots of Mav's have failed due to that, and the safety is in the trigger guard area instead of the ambi position on the top. Overall, good for the closet. :D
 
Wiki is only partially correct...
Factory Maverick 88's feature a black, synthetic only stock and forearm, cylinder bore (although chokes are available), and cross-bolt safety. Accessories are mostly compatible with the Mossberg 500.
Mine came with a 28 inch accu-choke barrel.

Maverick 88's are factory finished with steel bluing only, whereas Mossberg 500's have factory blued, stainless steel or parkerized (receiver/barrel/magazine) options.
I know of no stainless 500 in about 20+ years...

the mossberg 500 is also slightly heavier due to the thicker metal used for the receiver/barrel
Where would they put the extra thickness in the receiver? The outside width is identical and the inner parts exchange so the inside rail width is identical too...
Barrel thickness on the 500 and 88 is identical as well... The thicker barrel is on the 590.
Brent
 
"it all adds up for a little over a pound worth of weight savings on the 88"

Source?

2009 Mossberg catalog:

Mossberg 500 Persuader 18 1/2" 6 shot synthetic stock 6 3/4 lbs.

Maverick 88 Sp. Purpose 18 1/2" 6 shot synthetic stock 7 lbs.

I've owned several 500s and several 88s. I still have one of each, plus an 835. The receivers on the 500s and 88s the same and so are the barrels, IME. All parts, with the exception of the Maverick's different forearm arrangement and safety are 100% interchangeable, and the Maverick forearm can be retrofitted with the 500 forearm if you care to go to the trouble. I guess the question is: why would Mossberg, whose rep is based on squeezing every economy out of their production, tool up for two different receivers on their basic (500 & 88) models? What is the advantage? Why would they build a separate, heavier barrel for the 500 when they already build a heavier one for the 590A1 to satisfy military/LEO requests? Three different barrel profiles for the same basic platform? Their cataloged weights certainly do not bear this 500/88 - receiver/barrel theory out.

In any case, I just placed an inquiry with Mossberg's customer service dept. posing this question. We'll see.
 
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Just went to the range today and put 110rds through my 88, functioned flawlessly. I did it purposely to see how it would function with so many rounds and in so little time. Went through all of them in less than 15mins. Instead it got hot as hell, but fired and ejected smooth.

AND I threw on my friends 28'' Accuchoke barrel as Im in the midst of trading my barrel with another forum member. I cant believe how accurate that thing was, slugs were hitting wherever you pointed it at 25yds (farthest location at indoor range). I cant wait to get mine.
 
Oh, and I could care less about my 88's safety. I dunno why so many people get their panties in a twist over it. Works fine for me.
 
???

Well, of course the safeties do not interchange...that's a completely different design and a minor machining difference. But the base receiver dimensions are the same. As I said, all other parts, with the exception of the safety and the forend assembly, are 100% interchangeable.

The weight, which you stated earlier favors the 500 by an additional pound, actually falls slightly (by 1/4 #) to the 88 for the same configuration (18 1/2" barrel, synthetic stock)...at least according to the 2009 catalog. How does that happen?

Read the article I posted. As of 2006, according to this article, all receivers are produced in New Haven..."not tooled up in two different countries". Triggers, bolt assemblies, and some barrels, are built in Mexico and assembled in Eagle Pass. I don't believe receivers for commercial guns can legally be manufactured in Mexico under their laws. BTW, Eagle Pass is the primary assembly point for Mossberg guns....all of them.

Tell you what. We'll see what Mossberg says. Or, send them an email yourself and see what response you get.

I stand by my position on this until Mossberg says it's wrong.
 
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The receiver, where the serial # is typically found, is considered the firearm by our BATF in all those cases. I suspect the Mexican government sees it similarly.
 
Mavericks or Mossberg -look at the warranty

I have been considering purchasing a Maverick this year, given that they [Iseem by all accounts to be Mossbergs. Then I looked the Mossberg Catalog (granted it was last year's so this may have changed). I noticed that the Mossbergs had a 10 year limited warranty and the Mavericks had a 1 year warranty....Maybe that should tell anyone something about the quality of a Maverick versus a Mossberg...I'd spend the extra $50 or $100 bucks to get a firearm that will at least have the warranty, if you should need it.
 
While that is true ^^ I can't see ever needing the warranty with my Maverick. I have total confidence in it. Very simple in design. All that considered, I'd still buy another.
 
Mossberg

There are deals to be had on Mossbergs. Got a killer deal today bought a new Mossberg 500 28/18 1/2 inch combo barrel set. Kind of like having a hunting and a home defense shotgun...out the door under $300
 
The shorter warranty is part of the Mossberg's cost savings equation on the Maverick. They couldn't offer virtually an identical gun at less cost without trimming cost somewhere. For example: you do not get the extra pistol grip included as part of the security line; you only get 1 choke tube (mod) instead of the accu-set as part of the field line; you get a shorter warranty, etc. They trim all the "extras" away on the Maverick. It's bare-bones...their "value package".
Some like the choice; some don't.
 
Also Walmart carries Mavericks for cheap. Usually they only have the field model but I've read they have the security in their computer. If you ask I believe they can order it for you. At their prices they are almost disposable. :D Great deal on that combo sullyaz by the way. :cool:
 
Realistically, the main differences between the 500 and maverick, as stated above, are the position of the safety and the forend setup. If you prefer a crossbolt over a tang safety or vice versa, choose accordingly. If you aren't planning on changing the forend from the factory plastic, then the maverick is fine. If you are planning to change to a wood forend or to a surefire forend light etc, then the maverick will require some extra work making it less cost effective. I have not owned a maverick but those pins that hold the TWO action bars to the forend look plenty strong to me.
 
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