I have a beater VZ 24 still in 8MM, one from which someone cut off the forestock a long time ago. They just sanded the cut end, filled in some holes in the stock with wood putty, and left it at that. It's still got the iron sights, looks miserable and the gun's metal has some severe finish issues but that thing is one accurate shooter. A local gun shop had an old wooden barrel with a bunch a distressed rifles in it, all for real cheap, and this was one of them. It cost $75.00 and I love it.