Model12Win
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At the end of the day shot placement is key. The mass AND the energy come into play in order to give the ideal PENETRATION READOUT. You have to penetrate to the vitals. Is "both" an answer??
At the end of the day shot placement is key.
For best effect, ALL the factors need to be in balance, and above certain minimums.
.357 outperforms .45
Due to the greater velocity delivering greater energy on target.
Across the entire spectrum, yes. .50 BMG is generally more lethal than .22 LR or even .22 WMR.USSR said:Ah, .45 ACP maybe, but not the .45 Colt. As witnessed by myself numerous times on live game animals. Hence my personal opinion that the size of the hole is a valid factor in cartridge performance.
Shoot the same bad guy (who's getting REALLY tired of this by now ) with that BB at 3000fps and its going to be very penetrative and destructive, though the size of the wound channel will be small diameter.
Across the entire spectrum, yes. .50 BMG is generally more lethan than .22 LR or even .22 WMR.
But ... this discussion is (or was) limited to comparing .44 Magnum to .45 ACP and .45 Colt. There, the difference in bullet diameter basically disappears compared to the other applicable variables.
"Eliminate the terms 'stopping power,' 'knock-down power,' and 'hydrostatic shock' from your internal dictionary. They do not apply to what you are carrying."
"All the factors that play into success or failure in a gunfight--type of gun, brand of ammunition, caliber, projectile weight, and muzzle velocity--are distant thirds to technique and mindset."
Ah, .45 ACP maybe, but not the .45 Colt. As witnessed by myself numerous times on live game animals. Hence my personal opinion that the size of the hole is a valid factor in cartridge performance.
Which is why energy on target trumps diameter of projectile.
And yet that supports energy more than mass. .45 Colt running a heavier round at a faster velocity.
That's a question without an answer....when it comes to the limitation of mass v energy, which one matters more.
handguns don't have as broad a range of variarions, and in many cases, differences while measurable are not terribly significant.
Uh, check your ballistic charts. The .357 Magnum runs much faster and has higher energy levels than the .45 Colt, unless you are talking about Ruger-only loads, which I'm not.
"Micro-focusing" on one or two very basic parameters of terminal effect as if they make a lot of difference in the real world is like arguing about which breed of dog poses a bigger threat to humans when they become rabid.